Stripping for fun,or bending over

[Squid]

I don’t know, I am like a Goldfish, 10 second memory!

Oh dear.......

 

[Deleted member 26818]

If I had a regs book I would quote the actual reg.

Fine stranded conductors will suffer from copper creep if not suitably terminated.

Twisting and folding over is not sufficient.

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

 

[Rpa07]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

I think we had the argument/discussion 2 years ago which culminated in a member going out to his van to get a new pendant to prove stranded terminations!
Let it go, let it go la la la la la Dee do!

 

[Bobster]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

Take a look at how manufacturers install them.

Why bother putting coloured sleving on wires? Why bother putting labels on a CU? Because it's doing a job correctly.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I’ve worked in Hospitals, factories, football stadiums, ice rinks, schools, colleges, the O2, railway stations, marshalling yards, offices, hotels, shopping centres, shops, houses, flats, theatres, Police stations, air fields, caravan sites, power stations, data centres, car workshops, resturants and cafes, banks, magistrates courts, leisure centres, swimming pools, the Olympics, street furniture, TV studio, sewage farm, Laboratories, agricultural and horticultural, car parks....
Done power and lighting HV, MV, LV, ELV and reduced voltage distribution, door access controls, CCTV, BMS, trackside signalling, process controls, Fire alarms, PV....

The only time I’ve ever known bootlace ferrules to be used, is in BMS panels at a college and in control circuits at a couple of power stations.

 

[freddo]

I get through thousands of the things, use them on very fine stranded and almost all fine stranded cable. Stock all sizes to 35mm in single, double and uninsulated.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I get through thousands of the things, use them on very fine stranded and almost all fine stranded cable. Stock all sizes to 35mm in single, double and uninsulated.

I work through agencies, so unless the company I’m working for supplies them, I’m not going to.

 

[Moley]

The only time I’ve ever known bootlace ferrules to be used, is in BMS panels at a college and in control circuits at a couple of power stations.

Nearly every power station and sub that I've worked at has been ferruled (that word doesn't look right). Not just control circuits but most auxilaries. I know that all the equipment that I install/repair is fitted with a ferule. Apart from looking neater it makes life so much easier when you have to disconnect/reconnect.

 

[Nebu1a]

Do you twist meter tails or untwist and give them a little squeeze to square them off?

 

[Pete999]

I knew Rob, jus


I always put a ferrule on fine stranded conductors

For Rob I was just messing with you Mate

 

[jamie-spark]

Reg 526.9 does not state bootlaces as such but that precautions are taken , although I agree it’s getting at the use of bootlaces.

 

[jamie-spark]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

Must admit I use them in every thing. plugtops, klix plugs, flex connections in j501s, shortened rcbo fly leads and anything with fine stranded conductors ect ect

 

[Silly Sausage]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

In my Instrument Tech days, if I'd got a £ for every fine stranded wire I'd had to re-terminate, I'd be a ...

For the sake of 10 seconds effort ...

Some of us are professionals, some of us amateurs

 

[Chris1234]

There’s lots of cheap screws in plugs, chocolate blocks, terminals that have a sharp edge that cut through stranded cable.
I use bootlace as often as I can.

 

[-Matt]

I’ve worked in Hospitals, factories, football stadiums, ice rinks, schools, colleges, the O2, railway stations, marshalling yards, offices, hotels, shopping centres, shops, houses, flats, theatres, Police stations, air fields, caravan sites, power stations, data centres, car workshops, resturants and cafes, banks, magistrates courts, leisure centres, swimming pools, the Olympics, street furniture, TV studio, sewage farm, Laboratories, agricultural and horticultural, car parks....
Done power and lighting HV, MV, LV, ELV and reduced voltage distribution, door access controls, CCTV, BMS, trackside signalling, process controls, Fire alarms, PV....

The only time I’ve ever known bootlace ferrules to be used, is in BMS panels at a college and in control circuits at a couple of power stations.

I do some work with mobile motorsport hospitality units (ie artic trailers kitted out). The fixed wiring is always in flex.
We always use ferrels, and most I've come across the installer has used them.

I now use them whenever I use flex by habit now.

I have a lad working for me at the moment, and he had never been told to use them in his training, but agrees with me they make a much better connection.

 

[Intoelectrics]

I have a lad working for me at the moment, and he had never been told to use them in his training, but agrees with me they make a much better connection.

Anything that improves a connection is better practice. But more so, anything that improves the "longevity" of the connection is good practice. I got into the habit of "tinning" using solder - fine stranded conductors. Yes this is time consuming, most likely OTT and probably unnecessary for most applications but it ensured a very good reliable connection.

 

[Bobster]

Anything that improves a connection is better practice. But more so, anything that improves the "longevity" of the connection is good practice. I got into the habit of "tinning" using solder - fine stranded conductors. Yes this is time consuming, most likely OTT and probably unnecessary for most applications but it ensured a very good reliable connection.

Quite the contrary.

Tinning should only be used with very specific applications.

Probably get away with it in a domestic environment as generally there isn't much vibration. However in industry, those connections will fail prematurely.

Again, the regs (526.9 approximate reg number) make reference to this and state that it should not be done.

Edit: Although I do remember the days that tinning joints was common practice. Terminals and connectors aren't as good quality as they used to be. An it was before the widespread availability of ferrules and insulated crimps/ related tools becoming cheap.

 

[DPG]

Stranded wire should NOT be tinned if it is going to be fitted into a screw terminal.

 

[Intoelectrics]

Tinning should only be used with very specific applications.

Edit: Although I do remember the days that tinning joints was common practice. Terminals and connectors aren't as good quality as they used to be. An it was before the widespread availability of ferrules and insulated crimps/ related tools becoming cheap.

I use ferrules and crimps these days, I was referring to way back when... . Mainly for control panels and similar not on any industrial stuff per-say.

 

[Squid]

Do you twist meter tails or untwist and give them a little squeeze to square them off?

Chop a couple strands off to make sure they fit properly............ ;o))))