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I was wondering if anyone has seen SWA cleats that would comply with the 18th edition reg 521.10.202 (i.e. not liable to premature collapse etc...)?

The data sheet for cleats produced by SWAonline say they are 'stable' between -350c and 1050c but they are still made of plastic! Not sure that would be what I am looking for. All well and good using a metal plug and screw but surely the cleat with give up first?

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I highly doubt it that a firefighter will go into a building that is over 1050 deg C. I doubt their suits can that that temp.
 

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If the cleats fail at 1050c, there isn't going to be anyone anywhere near them at that time, or anytime soon after.
 

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Plastic is a bit of a Generic term.

Some plastics deform in warm water.
Some plastics have probably been to the Moon and back.

I'm reasonably convinced that SWA's quote about temps is either theoretical or a misprint, I'm not aware of anyone getting below -273c (absolute Zero)
Stability down to -35OC and up to 105OC constant
 
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Maybe I'll tie it up with strips of fire fighters suits then.

Sadly I don't have time to write a list of the infinite amount of scenarios I would like to exclude from my question. But you have covered two there... It's not being installed under water or on a celestial body.
 

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Plastic is a bit of a Generic term.

Some plastics deform in warm water.
Some plastics have probably been to the Moon and back.

I'm reasonably convinced that SWA's quote about temps is either theoretical or a misprint, I'm not aware of anyone getting below -273c (absolute Zero)
Stability down to -35OC and up to 105OC constant
Ah the joys of Physics :)
 

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I have used cleats as normal and where over doorways or would pose a hazard in worse case scenario used a size up with metal band inside. so its not visible.
 
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I have used cleats as normal and where over doorways or would pose a hazard in worse case scenario used a size up with metal band inside. so its not visible.
Now that’s a good idea bud. I’ve used the metal band but never thought of hiding it within a cleat.
 

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Like Gavin I've used some all band, but I used black and put it on the outside.
 

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Any idea of the price of those, larger P clips for MICC are certainly eye wateringly expensive. Though I assume these are steel and not copper!
 

Gavin John Hyde

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depending on size of the cable. can use some black metal saddles if you got some. can get a bit pricey unless you get a job lot. it doesnt look that good though but at height its quite discreet.
 
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You could of course use tray and cable tie the SWA to the tray.
 
It would help if manufacturers actually kept up with regs updates and developed products to allow us to easily comply with updated editions!
Tray and steel ties all good for commercial, but I can't see a domestic customer going for that look!
 

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I love cable tray. Its as close as I can get to my departed, much loved (and swapped for a motorbike) Meccano set.
 

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Would flame retardant cable ties be allowed if you were to do that? If not what would you use to tie it?
Yes, flame retardant cable ties cab be used on cable tray.
 

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Can I ask what the reason is for switching to electric? Gas hob every time for me!
 
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