SWA cleats complying to 18th edition?

[AdamSmith86]

Good evening,

I was wondering if anyone has seen SWA cleats that would comply with the 18th edition reg 521.10.202 (i.e. not liable to premature collapse etc...)?

The data sheet for cleats produced by SWAonline say they are 'stable' between -350c and 1050c but they are still made of plastic! Not sure that would be what I am looking for. All well and good using a metal plug and screw but surely the cleat with give up first?

Regards

 

[Spoon]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I highly doubt it that a firefighter will go into a building that is over 1050 deg C. I doubt their suits can that that temp.

 

[snowhead]

If the cleats fail at 1050c, there isn't going to be anyone anywhere near them at that time, or anytime soon after.

 

[Spoon]

The Science Behind Personal Protective Equipment for Firefighters | DuPont USA - http://www.dupont.com/corporate-functions/our-approach/global-challenges/protection/articles/the-science-behindpersonalprotectiveequipmentforfirefighters.html

Suits can take up to 370 Deg C.

 

[snowhead]

Plastic is a bit of a Generic term.

Some plastics deform in warm water.
Some plastics have probably been to the Moon and back.

I'm reasonably convinced that SWA's quote about temps is either theoretical or a misprint, I'm not aware of anyone getting below -273c (absolute Zero)
Stability down to -35OC and up to 105OC constant

 

[AdamSmith86]

Maybe I'll tie it up with strips of fire fighters suits then.

Sadly I don't have time to write a list of the infinite amount of scenarios I would like to exclude from my question. But you have covered two there... It's not being installed under water or on a celestial body.

 

[freddo]

That would make more sense! -35°C - 105°C

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'm not aware of anyone getting below -273c (absolute Zero)

Well spotted! I missed that one.

 

[Wilko]

Plastic is a bit of a Generic term.

Some plastics deform in warm water.
Some plastics have probably been to the Moon and back.

I'm reasonably convinced that SWA's quote about temps is either theoretical or a misprint, I'm not aware of anyone getting below -273c (absolute Zero)
Stability down to -35OC and up to 105OC constant

Ah the joys of Physics

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I have used cleats as normal and where over doorways or would pose a hazard in worse case scenario used a size up with metal band inside. so its not visible.

 

[Bait Account]

I have used cleats as normal and where over doorways or would pose a hazard in worse case scenario used a size up with metal band inside. so its not visible.

Now that’s a good idea bud. I’ve used the metal band but never thought of hiding it within a cleat.

 

[SparkyChick]

Like Gavin I've used some all band, but I used black and put it on the outside.

 

[westward10]

http://www.luckinslive.com/product-news/swacleats/

 

[freddo]

Any idea of the price of those, larger P clips for MICC are certainly eye wateringly expensive. Though I assume these are steel and not copper!

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

depending on size of the cable. can use some black metal saddles if you got some. can get a bit pricey unless you get a job lot. it doesnt look that good though but at height its quite discreet.

 

[telectrix]

run the SWA on the floor.

 

[GBDamo]

That would make more sense! -35°C - 105°C

Agree, looks like a missing decimal point.

Come on, who gave this a dumb and why?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

You could of course use tray and cable tie the SWA to the tray.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I have used cleats as normal and where over doorways or would pose a hazard in worse case scenario used a size up with metal band inside. so its not visible.

I do exactly the same, except the first SWA of the year last week i did it every third cleat so roughly every 1200.

 

[Bellendian]

It would help if manufacturers actually kept up with regs updates and developed products to allow us to easily comply with updated editions!
Tray and steel ties all good for commercial, but I can't see a domestic customer going for that look!