Everyone has a "clean" set of tools for second fixing right ? I know I have.
They're not that clean though
Those cutters,pliers and the driver in the pic were almost new then but not quite so pretty now. And don't you find that where ever you place your tools where other 'trades' are about they seem to act as a magnet for them to drill,saw,plane,sand,paint you name it right by them. 
My latest Fusebox consumer delivery (arrived today) is now using single module width SPDs. All the previous units required two module widths for the SPD. This wins back the way previously lost to an MCB, when Fusebox decided it wasn't OK to just connect the SPD across the incoming supply/
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That video was uploaded to You Tube in May 2019. However, DSS Electrical subsequently uploaded another video regarding Fusebox boards six months later wherein he is full of praise for the brand. He even goes so far as to say that he thinks they're better than Hager! Conflicting advice indeed.
Probably because he got got sent a load for freeThat video was uploaded to You Tube in May 2019. However, DSS Electrical subsequently uploaded another video regarding Fusebox boards six months later wherein he is full of praise for the brand. He even goes so far as to say that he thinks they're better than Hager! Conflicting advice indeed.
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In the first video he stated that they were sh*t and not to bother with them. That was the sum total of his opinion and the statement was not qualified with any details about what he didn't like.
In the second video he stated that he'd never actually fitted one of them before, but that his employee had and didn't like it. He went on to state that the same employee prefers MK boards, which he fits regularly - make of that what you will.
His own opinion in that second video may have been influenced by receiving a free unit, or it might not, but it was an actual review that gave some detail to back up those opinions.
*Edit: Second video contains statement that boards were bought by himself. Not freebies, it would seem.
I quite like Fusebox CUs, I have only fitted one to be fair, but I did look over a few before recommending them first.
Ultimately it's up to the individual to decide for themselves as we all view things differently, and of course no CU design is perfect, so if it so happens that one of these issues impacts you on a particular install, you get a totally different view than if the issue didn't occur.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they are better than Hager, but they perform well up there with the better ones out there. I would say that a cost/quality point of view would put them above Hager, Hager aren't 2-3x as good but they are 2-3x as expensive (but my favourite - just don't tell the other CUs this!)
Why anyone would buy BG or any other bottom or mid-range CU in preference to Fusebox is beyond me.
Ultimately it's up to the individual to decide for themselves as we all view things differently, and of course no CU design is perfect, so if it so happens that one of these issues impacts you on a particular install, you get a totally different view than if the issue didn't occur.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they are better than Hager, but they perform well up there with the better ones out there. I would say that a cost/quality point of view would put them above Hager, Hager aren't 2-3x as good but they are 2-3x as expensive (but my favourite - just don't tell the other CUs this!)
Why anyone would buy BG or any other bottom or mid-range CU in preference to Fusebox is beyond me.
On a slightly different angle how do these 'celebrity' sparks get away with filming jobs complete with commentary, it must add a lot of time to the job- and are the customers paying for the added time ?
I just wouldn't have the time to p155 about like that , and do these videos also encourage the DIY brigade to attempt much more than they're capable of ?
That's tonights rant done.
I just wouldn't have the time to p155 about like that , and do these videos also encourage the DIY brigade to attempt much more than they're capable of ?
That's tonights rant done.
@Dave OCD We were talking about this yesterday. It's a days work to test, remove the old board and then install a new one, dress all the cables, final test and record all the results. I've no idea how they manage it with the recording also.
I also think that it dies encourage DIYers. We've had instances of it around here where they try to follow a Youtube video. There was mention on Instagram this morning of a CPS assessor watching a sparky on site whom was watching a Youtube video of wiring up a light so he could follow along!
I also think that it dies encourage DIYers. We've had instances of it around here where they try to follow a Youtube video. There was mention on Instagram this morning of a CPS assessor watching a sparky on site whom was watching a Youtube video of wiring up a light so he could follow along!
Because you can buy BG at Screwfix round the corner... but you'd need to know about CP Fusebox and search for a supplier. ??
Have fitted a few Fusebox consumer units now over this last year and have been very happy with them with no come backs afterwards from customers. I originally purchased them through Thomas Electrical Distributors although my local CEF can order them in for me at a similar price.
Yeah, sort of accept that, and expect it for a diyer, but for professionals not to be aware of the market, and sticking with the lowest of the low at the same price as better kit....
I suppose I should have qualified my statement along the professional installer line...
I've fitted a couple of m2 boards, off the shelf at CEF. Preferred the rcbo board to the split load rcd board. I don't like the lid fixings as they seldom match up and the units look like something out of a Russian spacecraft. A bit basic. Having said that never had any post installation issues. Would prefer to install a different brand when given the choice i.e. Fusebox, Hagar, etc.
Yeah... I am a professional installer... and getting hold of materials can be a right pain. Anything that has to be specially ordered needs me to carefully plan ahead with full knowledge of exactly what I need... which isn't always the case. Then if anything needs to be delivered... I either need to carefully schedule an office/paperwork day or have deliveries to site, but which site ?
Having a store around the corner that always has everything I want on the shelf, opens early and late, and is keenly priced has got to be the nirvana ?
I'm also working on designing the perfect toolbox... it has every tool in it that you need.. but none that you don't need... is lightweight and easily carried from van to door... and of course never gets stolen !
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It is common amongst all trades to use whatever materials are available from local wholesalers and, where necessary, grumble a bit about quality or price. My work over the years has required me to keep abreast of new products in many industries and that need to know also extends to areas in which I have a personal interest - I'm firmly of the belief that it's not possible to possess too much information.
During my time reading this forum I've been surprised at how often members had been unaware of products that many others take for granted and these instances demonstrate another benefit of the forum. I'd previously posted about CP Fusebox releasing their compact RCBOs as I have a particular interest in TT earthing systems (interest, not knowledge ?) and these offered a significant cost saving for such installations - both to the installer and consumer.
I get the use of local wholesalers of course, and indeed use screwfix myself, but I would have thought for planned CU replace or rewires, most would buy in semi-bulk, certainly if I actually do a job (rather than poring over designs all day) I tend to order most everything from chosen suppliers (CEF, Edwards, consumer unit world etc) mainly on-line, and it just gets delivered. (Screwfix good for cable though!) - allows me to get the ordering done in the evening and work in the day.
I don't really do fixes/faults, but in that case I would just use CEF, Yesss, or screwfix/toolstation, depending on the needs
I don't really do fixes/faults, but in that case I would just use CEF, Yesss, or screwfix/toolstation, depending on the needs
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I think it's more a case of relying on wholesalers to keep abreast of new products and often accepting whatever those wholesalers present. Obviously everyone is different, but many are creatures of habit. I like to buy local and, where possible, from independent businesses, but in return will expect those businesses to make some effort to retain my custom - in other words, they need to keep up with online competition in terms of product choice and not expect that I'll pay double for local service.
Photo gone?
Found this thread as I was looking for info about the devices, rather than the CUs - registered initially so I could see the photo. ?
Anybody had any issues with FuseBox RCBOs?
I've found the fusebox boards to be very good, I've fitted probably 10-12 over the last few months and they are good for space, compact rcbo's excellent, surge protection great! Can't fault them really and not had 1 faulty item or call back so can't grumble on that front either, and the price is excellent compared with Hager Schneider and wylex. Still Hager always sits high on my install list as they were the first board I ever installed and they are still excellent imho
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Object all you like Mike, maybe you're holding your head at a funny angle.
Let's see a picture of one of your boards then. ?
Perfectly awesome work that I'd certainly be proud of if it were mine
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the problem I'd have is brands seem to come and go, and now mixing of components is expressly banned you're stuffed if you need a new circuit or replacement part. Client of mine had a "magnuss" dual RCD with faulty RCD which was apparently 6 months old at the time, searched high and low and no idea where it came from. Refuses to have to whole unit replaced. Another guy had a clipsal - actually good quality kit, but pulled out the UK market, now he needs a 6 amp MCB but all you have is idiots flogging worn out stuff of dubious origin on ebay etc. Explain to me the QA on that.
This is why I fitted mostly MK/wylex for years but since they went right down the toilet its been hagar.
This is why I fitted mostly MK/wylex for years but since they went right down the toilet its been hagar.
Don't know why people think this mix and match situation is a recent thing as it has been a requirement for years to follow manufacturers guidance and this wouldn't have included fitted non-compatible devices it really is nothing new.
Everyone who moves into a non-new-build house and doesn't have the CU replaced is using second-hand devices.....
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