Alterations on old rewireable consumer unit

[Noob2013]

A friend has asked me to install a couple of extra sockets in there kitchen.

The consumer unit is an old Wylex with rewireable fuses so there is no RCD protection.

Would you carry out the work and recommend a new consumer unit/upfront RCD or would you not do the work unless they agree to have the extra work carried out aswell?

Some people are too tight or unable to afford the extra work so can't make them do it.

Cheers

 

[Andy78]

obviously then a metalclad socket with SWA glanded in via a 20mm galv. coupler on the tiles of their £10,000 designer kitchen.

Well it wasn't a £10,000 designer kitchen, but a customer did ask me to change all their kitchen sockets for surface mounted metal clad ones. I also installed them a surface mount steel conduit lighting system with matching switch drops, completed with twisted cloth flex drops.
No shades installed on the brass lamp holders yet though. She is waiting to amass enough Victorian copper jelly moulds until she asks me to drill them out and mount them.

Not quite to my personal taste but the customer could not have been happier. I even got a bottle of wine and some cake when I went to drop off the invoice.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Regarding the freezer socket you could label it and wire the circuit in bs8436 cable to omit rcd protection.

 

[Octopus]

Regarding the freezer socket you could label it and wire the circuit in T&E on the surface or in trunking to omit rcd protection.

Corrected that for you! lol

 

[Dave OCD]

Or chase in steel conduit, earthed of course.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Corrected that for you! lol

Lol I think that would complement the 30K kitchen just lovely

 

[Dave OCD]

Talking of kitchens only last week I was in an empty recently purchased bungalow where the plumber was also the 'kitchen fitter'- the idiot had siliconed the hob down to a corian worktop which cost £3k - before I'd connected the 4mm HO7 flex !! Just can't get to the terminal cover and connections on the back corner from below so he's gong to have to take the hob out, customer terrified that the worktop will be damaged but I'm not attempting it.

 

[ruston]

Talking of kitchens only last week I was in an empty recently purchased bungalow where the plumber was also the 'kitchen fitter'- the idiot had siliconed the hob down to a corian worktop which cost £3k - before I'd connected the 4mm HO7 flex !! Just can't get to the terminal cover and connections on the back corner from below so he's gong to have to take the hob out, customer terrified that the worktop will be damaged but I'm not attempting it.

That is just stupidity personified .
How could anyone be so stupid.

 

[Dave OCD]

That is just stupidity personified .
How could anyone be so stupid.

Yeah the muppet never seems to be around when I'm there, he also cut off the main water bond behind the sink so I had to chase out and get enough slack to fit a 10mm through crimp, and he told the customer that fitting the new shower to the wall in the shower room is my job even though he still has to put the existing pipe flush in the wall and it all has to be tiled yet, a real cretin !

 

[ruston]

Yeah the muppet never seems to be around when I'm there, he also cut off the main water bond behind the sink so I had to chase out and get enough slack to fit a 10mm through crimp, and he told the customer that fitting the new shower to the wall in the shower room is my job even though he still has to put the existing pipe flush in the wall and it all has to be tiled yet, a real cretin !

Fun to be had there then . Good luck with that one.

 

[Dave OCD]

It's a nightmare, the poor woman regrets employing him but also tried blaming me for not connecting the hob 'in advance' - until I explained I couldn't until the worktop was actually 'on site'. :smile5:

 

[ruston]

It's a nightmare, the poor woman regrets employing him but also tried blaming me for not connecting the hob 'in advance' - until I explained I couldn't until the worktop was actually 'on site'. :smile5:

Fine , but if he knew it wasn't on only an idiot would glue it in.
I'm on your side.

 

[Dave OCD]

Yeah the flex was all in place from the isolator ready to connect and I even asked her to ring me as soon as the worktop was fitted but that didn't happen..... :smile5:

 

[ruston]

As I said to someone recently, ' you wont be the first....'

 

[ipf]

No, I don't believe so DPG.
Originally we were allowed to omit RCD protection in non-domestic installations only because the EAWR required employees to be skilled or supervised.
They changed it to requiring a risk assessment because the exemption was being abused.
There was always an exemption for sockets for specific items, for all installations.

So, I am still alright labelling up a non RCD socket 'lawnmower' then. Cheers spin:book:
:wink_smile:

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Yes, as long as the mower has an RCD plug.

 

[telectrix]

Yes, as long as the mower has an RCD plug.

touche!

 

[IzzyS]

It's a nightmare, the poor woman regrets employing him but also tried blaming me for not connecting the hob 'in advance' - until I explained I couldn't until the worktop was actually 'on site'. :smile5:

I have wired one in advance before. Leave enough slack in the wring and Pythagoras reckons it can be passed through the hole in the worktop. Unless you have a circular hob.

 

[andyb]

I have wired one in advance before. Leave enough slack in the wring and Pythagoras reckons it can be passed through the hole in the worktop. Unless you have a circular hob.

There were no electric hobs in Pythagoras's day.

 

[Dave OCD]

I have wired one in advance before. Leave enough slack in the wring and Pythagoras reckons it can be passed through the hole in the worktop. Unless you have a circular hob.

Anything that isn't well out of the way and/or wrapped up in 6 inches of bubble wrap at this place gets covered in crap or scratched and scuffed by the wet pants/kitchen fitter/utterly useless ****. And as the supply end of the flex was already in plastered in oval conduit to use your method the hob would have had to be sat in the bottom of the housing pending the arrival of the worktop - believe me that would be a recipe for disaster on this particular job.

 

[ipf]

touche!

Toupee to you too...

 

[varilite]

Using lollipop method 6mm instead of 2x2.5s