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I received some great advice on another thread where I was advised by many to buy Quinetic. I'm liking the look of the dimmable receiver and switch. Is it any good? They'll be powering downlight leds.

Also what are your favourite led gu10s and from the point of view of dimmable does it matter about the downlight fitting? If I went cheap and got some from say Toolstation (e.g. Toolstation 18041 ) would they all pop in a few months?

Lastly, I think the dimmable is only 1A load. These days, do I still have to assume someone could get a 50watt gu10 and stick it in the fitting? Or is say 10watt per fitting more reasonable? I've got a biggish room......

Appreciate your thoughts :D
 

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I received some great advice on another thread where I was advised by many to buy Quinetic. I'm liking the look of the dimmable receiver and switch. Is it any good? They'll be powering downlight leds.

Also what are your favourite led gu10s and from the point of view of dimmable does it matter about the downlight fitting? If I went cheap and got some from say Toolstation (e.g. Toolstation 18041 ) would they all pop in a few months?

Lastly, I think the dimmable is only 1A load. These days, do I still have to assume someone could get a 50watt gu10 and stick it in the fitting? Or is say 10watt per fitting more reasonable? I've got a biggish room......

Appreciate your thoughts :D
but integrated LED downlighters, e.g. JCC V50. you can't change bulbs and also you can select colour temp. another + is that they only need 2" clearance above and can be covered in insulation if some daft builder has stuffed it in.
 

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Have to agree with tel there they are a very good light fitting with good output and can't have the lamps swapped so that stops that issue!
 
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But it does add the issue of if the internal lamp dies, then there's presumably no way of replacement without changing the fitting (is lumiere the correct term?)

I've seen the enlite 8 is also praised? I guess that gives me two to go on assuming integrated is way to go which it seems to be. Calculated I'd need 9 of these on my biggest receiver.
 

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I can only reiterate what I have said a few times...the dimmable receivers are not 100% compatible with some LED fittings.
I ordered some LED ceiling panels with dimmable function receivers to work with them, and they were erratic. i asked the supplier about this, they spoke to the manufacturer and that was the reply I got...not 100% compatible with some LED fittings.
They replaced the dimmable units with non-dimmable, FOC and all was well. If the dimmable aspect is crucial, may I suggest you ask the question?
I got all my gear from TLC, and they were very quick to answer my query.
 
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THanks Pirate so need to be careful. Dimmable is important for me. Do you know already what gu10 kit works well with the receivers?
 
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Forgot to ask one other hopefully not too stupid a question. Does the "silver" switches look ok? Are they similar to any other metal like switch (chrome or brushed this or that) or are they obviously painted plastic and look crap?
 

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I know quinetic make a grid module that fits I think mk, they look like a normal switch, bit more aesthetically pleasing to look at than the normal square ones, not sure if they work with the Wi-Fi controller as I haven't fitted any with that unit!
 

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I really like the idea of the Quinetic kits.
The only thing I don't like about them are the look of the switches. Why don't they have a light switch that looks like a standard light switch rather than a switch that takes up the whole area?
 

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E8 enlite fittings are good but deeper unit than the JCC ones tel linked to.
Yes once the lamp is gone the fitting has to be replaced, they used to come with a 5 year guarantee, not used them for a while though so that may have changed!
 

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I haven't fitted dimmable to GU10, so I can't advise on that, sorry. They work fine with non-dimmable, obviously.
I have only fitted the white switches, so again can't comment on the look of the others.
 
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Hmm so ideally for two banks of lights I'd get 2xdimmable receiver (2 x £42.60) plus 2xmk compatible chrome grid switches (2x£21)

That comes to £127.20 + p&p. That is pretty eye watering for a double gang switch !
 

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They may seem expensive, and for a simple installation they probably are, but in the majority of instances I have used them, they save chasing walls for switch drops, or using surface mounted conduit, and you can change your mind about where to locate the switches, and you can add extra switches, all without having to wire them in.
Customers hate the idea of chasing their decorated/papered walls, the dust and general upheaval, so the extra cost is justified, as is the cost saving compared with hours of labour, which always adds a lot to the final bill.
 
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Yes I do understand the main point about time is money for electricians. As a DIYer my time is free but I still think a kinetic switch is a very good idea for me for many reasons (ease of compliance and flexibility to another switch). So v grateful for the forum pointing me towards that.

I suppose my point is that they are very much more expensive than the brandless ones. I think I costed up some dimmerable but not wifi switches with two receivers and that came to about £88 so maybe not that bad.

Might just have to suck it up.
 

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"Dimmerable"?
I love that!
I suspect the brandless ones might not have any backup?
TLC have always "supported" the Quinetic ones, so i like that.
Yes, as a DIYer your time is free, but I am similar and hate the thought of cleaning up after raggling the plasterwork, then plastering, then redecorating...
Lazy ba****d, me!
 
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