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Certificate Software. What do you use?

He has 100% positive feedback.... there is no neg?

So what didnt you like about the certificates? I'd be interested in seeing a printed out finished cert for myself
 
i am a one man band (actually 2 man band if you count Patrick who does work for me)

i use easy cert as its professional and yes i have to renew the customer care package once a year but its £60 and if i ever have problems or suggestions on the software they get looked into.!! i would not use any thing other from now on as its a brilliant system that logs all your certs in a safe place as well on a internet server should your pc crash!!

plus that £60 quid is a tax write off so im not fussed!
 
So you have to buy the customer care package each year otherwise the software is unusable?

What version of easycert do you have..? you have all fire and eme forms?
 
i found them to be misaligned and a put together very poor. some fonts were different and in general they were nasty!

i used a trial version of easy cert at same time and i found that a much better system.!

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2nd off top!! i was tempted to go around and smash his face in with his comments he made via email when i asked for a refund!
 
I use easycert

You need the package to get support or updates,if your program is working fine then it works without updates

I need to renew my package, but I will wait until the 17th update is released then renew then (you get a year from when you renew, not when the renewal lapsed)

That way it's an extra few months between upgrades

I must admit their software is good and they listen to feedback

I phoned up and complained that the EIC forms don't let you put in an X (unsatisfactory) in the boxes.
The guy said everything should be ticked OK after the job is finished. My point is that I will do a EIC after a CU change and if I find something wrong (outwith the CU, such as loss of earth continuity on a lighting circuit) I can't put down a cross

They said they would change it on their next update - it was done

Good customer service- you actually get to talk to somoene who knows what their company is doing

In have had their software for a few years and find it good
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im thinking about buy test soft wear at the moment got a big job to do pir 290 propertys cant make my mind up on the niceic own make or ametech any info on both would be great.
 
Good customer service- you actually get to talk to somoene who knows what their company is doing
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you speak to brian!! i got him to release the Elec Danger Notification as a 7671 form rather than a NIC form
 
getting abit confussed now...

So the software licence never expires? i can use the software for the next 10 years if i want to without paying a penny more...

But if i want to update the software to the latest addition then it will cost me £60 for the update and 12 months support?
 
only got them because there's so many health warnings now on a smoke packet, there's no room to write a bloody EIC.
 
I got National Certs and have not been able to use them. Went to use Emergency Lighting Cert and all references on them was to an out of date version of BS5266. Told them about this and they said they would amend and send me update - have heard nothing since from them. Totally lost confidence in them now.
 
To be fair, you get what you pay for here, if you want a nice, sleek up to date package with loads of features like automatic DB schedule printing, automatic PDF creation etc etc then stump up the cash lol!
 
I used national certs for 5 years, drove me insane!! misaligned, tedious and time consuming crap, two weeks ago i bought pirform.
Pirform is 100000000% better to use, I installed it and gave them a call, 'Rob' the man behind pirform called me straight back and spent a good 30-45 mins demonstrating its features and many usefull shortcuts, the end results are superb!! I highly recommend pirform and the customer support shown to me, i just wish id paid for 'professional' software years ago!!
 
I used national certs for 5 years, drove me insane!! misaligned, tedious and time consuming crap
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nice to see others saw what i told national certs!!

hmmm still got his address in blackpool.... might send him a skip!
 
nikmet said:
I used national certs for 5 years, drove me insane!! misaligned, tedious and time consuming crap, two weeks ago i bought pirform.
Pirform is 100000000% better to use, I installed it and gave them a call, 'Rob' the man behind pirform called me straight back and spent a good 30-45 mins demonstrating its features and many usefull shortcuts, the end results are superb!! I highly recommend pirform and the customer support shown to me, i just wish id paid for 'professional' software years ago!!
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How much did you pay for the pirform package. I have heard there is a discounted rate through elecsa. Anyone know if this is true?

Scrub that, just found it here http://www.pirform.co.uk/products/eca-elecsa-pirform
 
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i bought through elecsa £82.80, worth every penny in my opinion, if you call them they will remotely demo it to you, makes filling in certificates enjoyable :-)
 
nikmet said:
i bought through elecsa £82.80, worth every penny in my opinion, if you call them they will remotely demo it to you, makes filling in certificates enjoyable :-)
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I'll send you the 350+ circuit middle school that I've got to input this weekend! :)
 
PIR form is rubbish, I have it but will never use it again. An EIC works out to be at least 7 pages long, that's too much ink. It's also a little buggy from time to time and you have to buy a license every year for £65 or the software becomes redundant.
If you're only a one man band, you really don't need such software, by buying it, you're just making someone else richer and increasing your overheads, which at the moment is suicide. If you insist on using software, then buy easy cert.
 
Voltimax said:
PIR form is rubbish, I have it but will never use it again. An EIC works out to be at least 7 pages long, that's too much ink. It's also a little buggy from time to time and you have to buy a license every year for £65 or the software becomes redundant.
If you're only a one man band, you really don't need such software, by buying it, you're just making someone else richer and increasing your overheads, which at the moment is suicide. If you insist on using software, then buy easy cert.[/QUO

Any decent software will not be cheap, and if you expect it to be kept up to date with continuous improvement it costs a LOT of money for the software development. I am a one man band, I have no problem with paying for a software licence and my experiance with PIRFORM and the one to one tuition I recieved was Superb, very pleased, just my honest opinion.
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Well you have your opinion and I have mine and the other good folks here will have theirs. To be honest, do you really need software to do your thinking for you? We shouldn't rely on such things, we should be using our own knowledge of the regs.
 
I've been following this thread with interest and am going to try PIRform. I think the price is ok and good value it if it saves me time and looks good to the client. I've spent too many hours of my life going boggle eyed filling in boxes and will try anything that will make the job easier. I have ued Amtech since the 17th came in and will be glad of change.
By the way does PIR form do 3 phase boards as Amtech Domestic doesn't?
 
skirby said:
I've been following this thread with interest and am going to try PIRform. I think the price is ok and good value it if it saves me time and looks good to the client. I've spent too many hours of my life going boggle eyed filling in boxes and will try anything that will make the job easier. I have ued Amtech since the 17th came in and will be glad of change.
By the way does PIR form do 3 phase boards as Amtech Domestic doesn't?
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i bought pir form few weeks ago now, just downloaded latest update and 3 phase boards included now, I bought it for exactly the reasons you mentioned and i find it excellent. hope this helps.
 
Looks like they will all need updating soon with new regs as Amendment number one introduces an electrical installation condition report (EICR) that replaces the periodic inspection report.
 
Thanks nikmet. I have now got the PIRform software and all looks good. I contacted them by email with a few queries last night (Saturday) and received a prompt reply! Rob emailed me some useful links and I'm booking a personal online run thru next week. Nice to know there is some top notch backup. Unlike my experiences with Amtech.
 
I founnd the one to one online very good and the time saving shortcuts I was shown were the icing on the cake, I like to support the independant companies that are still interested in helping you after youve paid them and Rob deserves credit where its due.
 
I've just had an email to say there's a new download at their site. I read their list of improvements, just proves I was right, buggy as hell! Well, let's hope they've got it right this time eh? Looks like you may have purchased it at the right time Skirby. However I still won't be renewing my license in December.
A word of warning, some people who use that kind of software rely too much on the "Intelligence". Often the software will bug out and not perform, but their trust is so, that they don't bother to check it with their own intelligence. I have seen this many times with my copy and I've seen certs by other people using the same software and it's obvious they didn't check it through after they printed it.

Too many folks after an easy life eh?
 

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