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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Professional"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 86 69.4%
  • No

    Votes: 38 30.6%

  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .

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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Pro Electrician" "Professional"?

What would you guys say?

I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)

So I'm squishing out content that doesn't make sense to a newbie to make it a bit more appealing.

Wondering if 'Pro Electrician' (needs be short) would be better than "Electricians Arms Member" or any version of that that's shorter.

So just to make this clear - this is a yes or no option and we don't have time to discuss lots of other options. It's either change it to Pro Electrician, or keep it as Arms Access.

At least for now lol

Poll runs for 2 days.

GO!

Edit: I've changed the question.
 
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James

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I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)
When I Applied for mine, I was pleased to find that I had to supply relevant information to prove that I was actually and currently working as a professional electrician.
if everyone has been through a similar vetting process the odds are good!!
 

Pete999

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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Pro Electrician"?

What would you guys say?

I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)

So I'm squishing out content that doesn't make sense to a newbie to make it a bit more appealing.

Wondering if 'Pro Electrician' (needs be short) would be better than "Electricians Arms Member" or any version of that that's shorter.

So just to make this clear - this is a yes or no option and we don't have time to discuss lots of other options. It's either change it to Pro Electrician, or keep it as Arms Access.

At least for now lol

Poll runs for 2 days.

GO!
I would say yes, but consideration will need to be afforded to retired Electricians, who, although no longer practice their trade were non the less "Professional Electricians" when they were working, sort of dismissing the input they would have made during their time on the tools. May be "Jedi Electricians":p
 

Pete999

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retired or not, yous still a professional electrician, albeit an old fart like me. :):):).
Trouble is Tel Professional, implies you are getting paid for Electricioning well I aint cus I aint got a job as an Electrician, till summat goes wrong next door and then I usually do it for peanuts does that make me a Monkey:p:p:D:eek::sweat:
 

James

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Trouble is Tel Professional, implies you are getting paid for Electricioning well I aint cus I aint got a job as an Electrician, till summat goes wrong next door and then I usually do it for peanuts does that make me a Monkey:p:p:D:eek::sweat:
A doctor is still a doctor when they retire,
so is a scientist and many others that i wont list.
If you want to keep the tag after you retire, i think you should automatically do so.
people who want to drop the tag could ask for it to be removed?
p.s. i Love the jedi electrician tag idea.
 

Pete999

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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Pro Electrician"?

What would you guys say?

I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)

So I'm squishing out content that doesn't make sense to a newbie to make it a bit more appealing.

Wondering if 'Pro Electrician' (needs be short) would be better than "Electricians Arms Member" or any version of that that's shorter.

So just to make this clear - this is a yes or no option and we don't have time to discuss lots of other options. It's either change it to Pro Electrician, or keep it as Arms Access.

At least for now lol

Poll runs for 2 days.

GO!
Likes, and Agrees, could be separated, more clearly people seem to be agreeing when they may mean LIKE I have fallen into that trap when trying to like a post, only to find I have only agreed.
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Likes, and Agrees, could be separated, more clearly people seem to be agreeing when they may mean LIKE I have fallen into that trap when trying to like a post, only to find I have only agreed.
 
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Lister1987

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Go for "Trading Electrician" (i.e. actively providing services), "Retired Electrician" (obvious), "Electrical Consultant" (those that are both the former but not actively trading, instead providing thier knowledge 'as is'
 
Go for "Trading Electrician" (i.e. actively providing services), "Retired Electrician" (obvious), "Electrical Consultant" (those that are both the former but not actively trading, instead providing thier knowledge 'as is'
This is a yes or no answer not alternatives.
 

Megawatt

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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Pro Electrician"?

What would you guys say?

I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)

So I'm squishing out content that doesn't make sense to a newbie to make it a bit more appealing.

Wondering if 'Pro Electrician' (needs be short) would be better than "Electricians Arms Member" or any version of that that's shorter.

So just to make this clear - this is a yes or no option and we don't have time to discuss lots of other options. It's either change it to Pro Electrician, or keep it as Arms Access.

At least for now lol

Poll runs for 2 days.

GO!
I like and agree pete999 and don’t kick retired electricians to the curb
 

davesparks

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If you want to change it then change it, but please can it be professional electrician, not 'pro'.

'pro' is a term put on the packaging of cheap, unreliable tat to make it appeal to idiots and children.
 

Dan

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If you want to change it then change it, but please can it be professional electrician, not 'pro'.

'pro' is a term put on the packaging of cheap, unreliable tat to make it appeal to idiots and children.
That makes it too long. I can us an apostrophe, chavs don't use those lol.

Pro' Electrician
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Same here how do i get in the arms?
Start a conversation with me and send me your company details etc
 

DPG

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I'd leave it the same personally. Can't see the benefit in changing, and I like the pub theme. If it has to change then its not a major thing though.
 

telectrix

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maybe just "professional". after all, this is an electricians forum, so it woud take a punter with an IQ <50 to thing it meant professional plumber.
 

Dan

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maybe just "professional". after all, this is an electricians forum, so it woud take a punter with an IQ <50 to thing it meant professional plumber.
That makes sense lol why didn't I think of that?!
Pro is also a term for a whore :)
I wouldn't know :p;):cool:
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Change "Arms Access" banner / tag to "Pro Electrician" "Professional"?

What would you guys say?

I assume everybody with the current Electricians Arms tag is an actual Professional Electrician? (Been a while since I've admin'd here to be fair)

So I'm squishing out content that doesn't make sense to a newbie to make it a bit more appealing.

Wondering if 'Pro Electrician' (needs be short) would be better than "Electricians Arms Member" or any version of that that's shorter.

So just to make this clear - this is a yes or no option and we don't have time to discuss lots of other options. It's either change it to Pro Electrician, or keep it as Arms Access.

At least for now lol

Poll runs for 2 days.

GO!

Edit: I've changed the question.
I've changed the question - You can change your vote if you wish. :)
 
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littlespark

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Retired electricians, although professional at one time may not be up to speed with modern regulations.

Keep it as the Arms.
 

Dan

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Retired electricians, although professional at one time may not be up to speed with modern regulations.

Keep it as the Arms.
Never thought of that!

I keep trying provide tiling advice on that forum and having been out of it for over a decade I keep ballsing up people's bathrooms. The members have to quickly correct me.

The adhesive and backerboard choices now are crazy. I can't keep up.
 

littlespark

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It’s down to whose advice you want to trust, I suppose.
The newly qualified, professional electrician that knows the 18th regs book backwards or the newly retired, been in the job 40 years, but last book was the 17/3rd.
In a forum like this, any suggestion that may not be 100% accurate is discussed afterwards

I’m not saying every retired spark just gives up and doesn’t keep their knowledge up to date. Even borrowing a current book from someone and reading it instead of playing golf 7 days a week.
 

telectrix

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Never thought of that!

I keep trying provide tiling advice on that forum and having been out of it for over a decade I keep ballsing up people's bathrooms. The members have to quickly correct me.

The adhesive and backerboard choices now are crazy. I can't keep up.
have you thought of re training as a plumber. far less brain work.
 

Pete999

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It’s down to whose advice you want to trust, I suppose.
The newly qualified, professional electrician that knows the 18th regs book backwards or the newly retired, been in the job 40 years, but last book was the 17/3rd.
In a forum like this, any suggestion that may not be 100% accurate is discussed afterwards

I’m not saying every retired spark just gives up and doesn’t keep their knowledge up to date. Even borrowing a current book from someone and reading it instead of playing golf 7 days a week.
I suppose you also have to balance what you said, with the questions asked, not every question will be Regulation based, will it?
How many times have questions been asked about working practices, etc Health and Safety, a rather emotive statement if I may sat so LS, was bound to invoke a reaction.
 

telectrix

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same as pete999. us old farts may not be totally up to date with current regs, but it's the same leccy as it was before we were born, with the same dangers. we don't need the nanny IET to add more regs just to stop idiots getting hurt. next edition will probably stipulate all domestic electrics are <50V, dry lining boxes must be steel, and all flooring will be rubber mats.
 

Dan

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Inbox me.

I thought I replied to you but I can't find it maybe I didn't click reply.

You have 450 posts. You have a notice that pops up after 50 and doesn't go until you have 300.

So where have you been looking all this time. Didn't you wonder why everybody's username was a different colour? Lol

(I'm messing - inbox me I'll sort you out)
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Dan told you what to do earlier pal.
I thought I did!!!

Nice quoting work matey.
 
Inbox me.

I thought I replied to you but I can't find it maybe I didn't click reply.

You have 450 posts. You have a notice that pops up after 50 and doesn't go until you have 300.

So where have you been looking all this time. Didn't you wonder why everybody's username was a different colour? Lol

(I'm messing - inbox me I'll sort you out)
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I thought I did!!!

Nice quoting work matey.
To be honest i didn't see his reply even though i read all replies (thought i did)

I've been looking at the replies from people haha. I was hoping you would change the colour without me asking .

Thanks
 

littlespark

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Blimey.
All I said was retired sparks MAY be out of date with regs. And answers to questions are discussed, so any issues with current regs are going to be corrected.
I didn’t say retired sparks shouldn’t be in the arms either, before someone throws that at me.
Calm down, calm down... to coin a phrase

That’s why I voted to keep the name as “the arms” and not change to “professional” as someone mentioned before me, retired guys are no longer in the profession.

The Arms is like a pub. Somewhere we go to discuss things out with the public part of the forums. To voice any frustrations over other posts and ask where the hell so-and-so is?
 

Pete999

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Blimey.
All I said was retired sparks MAY be out of date with regs. And answers to questions are discussed, so any issues with current regs are going to be corrected.
I didn’t say retired sparks shouldn’t be in the arms either, before someone throws that at me.
Calm down, calm down... to coin a phrase

That’s why I voted to keep the name as “the arms” and not change to “professional” as someone mentioned before me, retired guys are no longer in the profession.

The Arms is like a pub. Somewhere we go to discuss things out with the public part of the forums. To voice any frustrations over other posts and ask where the hell so-and-so is?
I think LS it was more what was insinuated, not exactly what you said, anyway said my piece,
 

SparkySy

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Hey @Dan thanks ever so much for your hard work and dedication that goes into keeping this site in order, and to all the mod's keeping us rabble in order!
oh and also for sorting out arms access for me!!
Kindest thanks
Sparkysy
 

Lucien Nunes

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'Professional' is, unfortunately, rather an ambiguous term that has different meanings in different places, and is much abused, so I would avoid it using it as a tag.

It can mean:
* someone who does something for a living
* someone who does something that needs special skills and knowledge
* someone who is registered with a licenced body or institution, such as a chartered engineer or solicitor
etc.

So, by one definition, an electrician cannot be a professional unless in addition to any C&G quals etc. they are also have a degree, or are an IEng or CEng, or whatever. And by another they cannot be a professional unless they undertake electrical jobs on behalf of paying customers. It's a bit like 'engineer', which in some countries means someone who works on machinery or drives trains, and in others means someone with a professional qualification at degree level (and you are not allowed to call yourself an engineer if you don't have the correct quals.)
 

Dan

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Hey @Dan thanks ever so much for your hard work and dedication that goes into keeping this site in order, and to all the mod's keeping us rabble in order!
oh and also for sorting out arms access for me!!
Kindest thanks
Sparkysy
Awww bless you thanks matey.

I just kinda come storming in and screw things up for a couple of weeks then storm off again.

It's the other staff that really sort the place out :)

And of course no forum would be anything but a boring blog without action from the members. So they need have the nod given too.

Thanks for your kind words though matey.
 

Dan

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"Poll closed Friday at 7:44 PM."

Did this close last Friday, or this Friday coming it closes? I can't change my vote now so I assume it's closed and that's the outcome?
 

GMES

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Yeah its closed now pal.
 

egg67

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So what’s the answer? Is it A1? Did I get it right, hope so as I never win enythig
 

Paignton pete

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When I Applied for mine, I was pleased to find that I had to supply relevant information to prove that I was actually and currently working as a professional electrician.
if everyone has been through a similar vetting process the odds are good!!
I wasn’t vetted. Possibly because I’ve been an active member since 2015.

I’ve noticed a few members are joining the forum and I suspect some are saying they are trainees or returning to the industry or just qualified in order to get more advice than we would give to DIY ers.

I only suspect this, but their terminology or knowledge lets them down quite often and they get caught out. At this point I stop contributing to the thread.
 
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I wasn’t vetted. Possibly because I’ve been an active member since 2015.

I’ve noticed a few members are joining the forum and I suspect some are saying they are trainees or returning to the industry or just qualified in order to get more advice than we would give to DIY ers.

I only suspect this, but their terminology or knowledge lets them down quite often and they get caught out. At this point I stop contributing to the thread.
Trainees, or ones with the tag, are vetted by the admins. They have to prove where they are studying etc..
 

bonjovi

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tell you what ,most see someone thats retired as 102 nowt else to do in life ,,hahhahahaha ,,,,peeps with this attitude are kids themselves ,with lots of yrs paying the irs and not caring about pension because they are scrapping thro with a baby a wife and holidays needed ,we have all been there ….im 57 18th edition and packed up cause I have have my fill and got plenty to live on ,so why graft untill I kick it ,this might seem smug but it bugs me when you here the others
 
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