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hoitytoity

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confused by statement by NICEIC that this ok? Electrician compliant as circuit not energised. Can anyone tell me how NICEIC can make statement like this and assess wiring ok when they haven been to my house to inspect
see attached the work left like this on Aug14th and I cant get it removed until somebody says it non compliant

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darkwood

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Is it energised or not?..

NICEIC will have consulted with there member and they must have said it is not energised, if this is true then what is the issue?
If however it is energised or has been left in a scenario where it can be accidentally energised then I would get independent verification from a competent person and pass that on to NICEIC.
 

spinlondon

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Why do you want it removed?
It’s a bit odd that they haven’t joined the 2 legs of the CPC together, but other than that, can’t see anything wrong.
 

Pete999

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confused by statement by NICEIC that this ok? Electrician compliant as circuit not energised. Can anyone tell me how NICEIC can make statement like this and assess wiring ok when they haven been to my house to inspect
see attached the work left like this on Aug14th and I cant get it removed until somebody says it non compliant

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Are you saying that this is going to be left like this and covered over? if yes then it is obviously non compliant, if however it is left like this not engineered, locked off until the plastering has been done, so all OK. One point though that cable doesn't look like 2.5mm2m why because one of those cpcs looks suspiciously like it#s yellow and not G/Y Just saying.
 
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Strima

Electrician's Arms
Is the circuit breaker turned off and does it have some form of locking device on it?

If the circuit is locked off then it is fine as it is. If it is live then there’s an issue as a bit of tape isn’t suitable to protect against direct contact. Also we don’t know how the cables are jointed together.

TBH those conductors look a little short but that could just be the photo.
 

telectrix

Scouser and Proud of It
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and depends what's under the tape, choc blocks , fire nuts, or just twisted?????
 

hoitytoity

Regular EF Member
my issue is the plaster board is 1 1/2 in front of the socket metal frame. The socket face plate would have a 1in gap between the face plate and the frame. The person who put the wiring in also fixed the plaster board to finish. Why am I the only one seeing this? Surely an 1in gap is not good?
 

hoitytoity

Regular EF Member
Is the circuit breaker turned off and does it have some form of locking device on it?

If the circuit is locked off then it is fine as it is. If it is live then there’s an issue as a bit of tape isn’t suitable to protect against direct contact. Also we don’t know how the cables are jointed together.

TBH those conductors look a little short but that could just be the photo.
they are too short. Thankyou
 

hoitytoity

Regular EF Member
Is the circuit breaker turned off and does it have some form of locking device on it?

If the circuit is locked off then it is fine as it is. If it is live then there’s an issue as a bit of tape isn’t suitable to protect against direct contact. Also we don’t know how the cables are jointed together.

TBH those conductors look a little short but that could just be the photo.
it's taped over
 

spinlondon

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my issue is the plaster board is 1 1/2 in front of the socket metal frame. The socket face plate would have a 1in gap between the face plate and the frame. The person who put the wiring in also fixed the plaster board to finish. Why am I the only one seeing this? Surely an 1in gap is not good?
Not really a problem.
A collar can be installed to take up the gap.
Most times, just longer screws are used.
 

Dave OCD

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As long as the plasterboard is accurately cut to match the box I can't see an issue with the box being deep, it would just need longer platescrews, and it would be easy to remove the box and fix a little batten in behind to bring it out flush with the plasterboard anyway.
This does seem a bit trivial TBH, are there other underlying issues here ?
 

SparkyChick

Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla
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So, playing devils advocate... why did the spark leave it like that in the first place?
 
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