Crimping tool

[Simon47]

Even if you could get a half decent ratchet for a tenner - people would still insist on using a £2 pair of pliers !

 

[Elecmox]

Even if you could get a half decent ratchet for a tenner - people would still insist on using a £2 pair of pliers !

Because that's the real price! OK, not 2 but maximum 10. More then that it's a legal rip off.

 

[Pete999]

Even if you could get a half decent ratchet for a tenner - people would still insist on using a £2 pair of pliers !

In this era of boil in the bag Sparkies, I agree, the general public are very gullible when it come to hiring trades people, as I found out when I was working away overseas, and my Wife was having problems with electrics, plumbing etc, if only She had the names and addresses of the guilty.
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Because that's the real price! OK, not 2 but maximum 10. More then that it's a legal rip off.

You could always employ someone who had the tools and expertise to do the job property, you get nothing for nothing in this life?

 

[Elecmox]

get me a samsung galaxy A70 then. i give you 100 eurines.

seriously though, with tools, you get what you pay for. mine were £65, but i know i can rely on them. even a decent pair of wire cutters will set you back £30.

Here in Serbia you can buy for 50 Euros (5.990 serbian dinars) Alcatel 5" with Android 8.0 Alcatel 1C DS Crni 5", QC 1.3GHz/1GB/8GB/8&5Mpix/Android 8.0 - https://www.winwin.rs/mobilni-i-fiksni-telefoni/mobilni-telefoni/smart-mobilni-telefoni/smart-telefon-alcatel-1c-ds-crni-5-qc-1-3ghz-1gb-8gb-8-5mpix-android-8-0-8656624.html

 

[Elecmox]

In this era of boil in the bag Sparkies, I agree, the general public are very gullible when it come to hiring trades people, as I found out when I was working away overseas, and my Wife was having problems with electrics, plumbing etc, if only She had the names and addresses of the guilty.
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You could always employ someone who had the tools and expertise to do the job property, you get nothing for nothing in this life?

I'll not pay for crimping one wire a 5 euros as I didn't. I am sick of people overcharging stupid jobs. As I said, I bought solder iron, solder and holder for 7 euros and solder wires for myself. I did the job, and I learned soldering for future.

 

[davesparks]

If those stupid crimp tools aren't so ridiculously expensive, people wouldn't use cheap bad pliers. I mean seriously, 50 Euros or pounds for simple piece of metal? C'mon, for 50 Euros I'll buy mobile phone.

£50 for a decent set of crimper is relatively cheap, considering they should last many years and will make thousands of good connections.

 

[Elecmox]

£50 for a decent set of crimper is relatively cheap, considering they should last many years and will make thousands of good connections.

Really, you think crimper is worth as a mobile phone? I wonder if someone would trade mobile phone for a crimper!?

This crimper costs 25 Euros, but I don't know if they are good. Kelco - Detalji proizvoda - Krimp klešta za izolovane flah papučice, hilzne... - http://www.kelco.rs/katalog/detalji.php?ID=10664

 

[davesparks]

Really, you think crimper is worth as a mobile phone? I wonder if someone would trade mobile phone for a crimper!?

This crimper costs 25 Euros, but I don't know if they are good. Kelco - Detalji proizvoda - Krimp klešta za izolovane flah papučice, hilzne... - http://www.kelco.rs/katalog/detalji.php?ID=10664

There is no comparison between a crimper an a mobile phone, they are not equivalent items in any way.

I doubt anyone would trade a mobile phone for a crimper, but then I doubt that anyone would trade a mobile phone for anything else of similar value.

Good quality tools are worth a lot of money, I buy good quality tools and they make my job quicker an easier so that I make more money.
If I spend £50 on a crimper and it lasts me 5 years that is better value than spending £20 on a crimper that only lasts me 1 year.

I think if I totalled up all of the different types of crimper I own I've probably spent a few thousand pounds over the years.

 

[Pennywise]

This thread is brilliant

 

[telectrix]

This thread is brilliant

not if it costs more than 7 eouros

 

[Elecmox]

There is no comparison between a crimper an a mobile phone, they are not equivalent items in any way.

I doubt anyone would trade a mobile phone for a crimper, but then I doubt that anyone would trade a mobile phone for anything else of similar value.

Good quality tools are worth a lot of money, I buy good quality tools and they make my job quicker an easier so that I make more money.
If I spend £50 on a crimper and it lasts me 5 years that is better value than spending £20 on a crimper that only lasts me 1 year.

I think if I totalled up all of the different types of crimper I own I've probably spent a few thousand pounds over the years.

I have a pliers that I bought for 5 Euros that lasts 15 years, price is not the only measurement of quality, but that's not the point I am talking about.
My point about this specific tool is that they are just pliers shaped for one function that is not so complex and that they are charging it outrageously expensive and that is a rip off.
I am comparing complexity of mobile phone with all engineering and design built into it with pliers that is just shaped iron cast. I am showing an example of how people are ripped off with such tools. For me there is no reason that they should cost more then 10 euros.

 

[davesparks]

I have a pliers that I bought for 5 Euros that lasts 15 years, price is not the only measurement of quality, but that's not the point I am talking about.
My point about this specific tool is that they are just pliers shaped for one function that is not so complex and that they are charging it outrageously expensive and that is a rip off.
I am comparing complexity of mobile phone with all engineering and design built into it with pliers that is just shaped iron cast. I am showing an example of how people are ripped off with such tools. For me there is no reason that they should cost more then 10 euros.

Yes, I'm sure we've all got very old tools which were bought cheaply, that doesn't necessarily mean they are in good condition or performing as well as they did when they were new.

Good crimper are not just a pair of specially shaped pliers!
Good crimpers have a calibrated mechnaism to provide a specific amount of pressure, and precision made dies to provide exactly the right shape to the crimp.

 

[Elecmox]

Yes, I'm sure we've all got very old tools which were bought cheaply, that doesn't necessarily mean they are in good condition or performing as well as they did when they were new.

Good crimper are not just a pair of specially shaped pliers!
Good crimpers have a calibrated mechnaism to provide a specific amount of pressure, and precision made dies to provide exactly the right shape to the crimp.

OK, I'll rise the max price to 15 Euros. Give me valid reasons for the rest 35 Euros.

 

[davesparks]

OK, I'll rise the max price to 15 Euros. Give me valid reasons for the rest 35 Euros.

I haven't even seen the £50 crimper being discussed here so don't know if it would be worth it or not.

For reference the crimper I have for red/blue/yellow crimps was about £85 about 6 years ago, it has served me well and as far as I know none of the connections I haveade with it have failed.

 

[Elecmox]

I haven't even seen the £50 crimper being discussed here so don't know if it would be worth it or not.

For reference the crimper I have for red/blue/yellow crimps was about £85 about 6 years ago, it has served me well and as far as I know none of the connections I haveade with it have failed.

I just can't justify that kind of price for such item. I understand that is usefull and all that, but I just can't accept that kind of price/function ratio.

 

[telectrix]

it's like comparing a Ferrari with a Reliant Robin. you get what you pay for.

 

[Mfctitch]

These are like Rolls Royce of crimps.

ho like those but any suggestions for uninsulated up to 16mm?

 

[Elecmox]

it's like comparing a Ferrari with a Reliant Robin. you get what you pay for.

Yes, but Ferrari is not worth it also.

 

[davesparks]

ho like those but any suggestions for uninsulated up to 16mm?

SWA (specialised wiring accessories, not the cable) do a good range of crimping tools at sensible prices.
I'm pretyy sure they are badge engineered copies of old BICC designs but I've never yet had a problem using them.
I've got the hex crimper which does 6 through 50mm uninsulated crimps and the indent crimper which does 6mm to 25mm (though I don't know where that one is at the moment)

 

[Pennywise]

ho like those but any suggestions for uninsulated up to 16mm?

I use these from Davico or they’re a rebranded version, perfect form factor as they are small and fit in a tool bag quite nicely as a lot of crimpers that go up to 16mm tend to be the larger boltcroper looking ones. Only downside is you need a little more wrist power ?