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It's too expensive.40,posts and OP still don't get it. buy the right tool for the job. end of. i'm out.
Normal copper wire (or tinned copper) is easy to solder if you have any skill in that area.It's more cheaper to buy solder iron and solder then to buy crimp tool.
But, I have read on one forum for car speakers: "The reason I used crimp connectors is I found the factory wire seemed liked it had been burnt and I couldn't get a solder joint"
What can this be? Has wire oxidized maybe?
Last one seems like a good option, I saw that one today, but without cover box. I'll look at it.Normal copper wire (or tinned copper) is easy to solder if you have any skill in that area.
But sometimes you find cheaper stuff being used. Aluminium wire is hard to solder, and you also see copper wire spiralled around a thread for earphones which is also practically impossible to solder.
Crimping is quick and very reliable (more so than screw connections) if you use the correct tool. By time you bought the cheap and useless crimp tool, a soldering iron, solder, and practised soldering and not burning your fingers, you could probably have bought something like this for US $12.79:
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If you simply need to join two wires, and you do not need a push-on terminal or ring tag, then just use some Wago terminals or a screw terminal block. You can probably get them in Serbia no problem but I don't know where to look and not everywhere sells them in small numbers. Here is a UK example:
https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/wago-2-way-lever-connector-221-series-32a-pack-of-100/8421r
https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/debox-in-line-connector-box/8692h
Is this good Kelco - Detalji proizvoda - Wago spojnica, 32A/600V, za provodnik 0.08mm-4mm², dvopolna - http://www.kelco.rs/katalog/detalji.php?ID=15382Last one seems like a good option, I saw that one today, but without cover box. I'll look at it.
Ratchet crimp that you suggested cost about 25 Euros here, due to customs and shipping.
I think this is what you suggested, I can buy 2 pieces Spojnica WAGO 221-412, 2 kontakta, 4kvmm :: MikroPrinc - https://www.mikroprinc.com/sr/proizvod/spojnica-wago-221-412-2-kontakta-4kvmm
I understand that good connection is desirable, but I can't afford to pay 50$ or pounds, or euros, just to crimp 2-3 wires. That's just not acceptable. I will crimp it with tool I have, or with the one I suggested to buy. I have tried them, and I am sure it will hold for longer period of time. If someone has better solution, then I will reconsider.
Can't you get a smaller butt crimp?I tried to crimp this small wire into but connector 1.5 mm, but wire is too small and I can't crimp it good. I don't know what the size of wire is.
What should I do with the wire, should I fold it back down the wire insulation and crimp all of it?
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No, that's the smallest I could find.Can't you get a smaller butt crimp?
they are OK, but have been superceded by the more compact 221 series.
Yes, I know, they are smaller and better.they are OK, but have been superceded by the more compact 221 series.
Soldering can go wrong either, but I guess LPG can't afford bad crimp connections for obvious reasons.As an aside, CoP11 for installation of LPG conversions in vehicles prohibits crimping of terminals - they have to be soldered. For the reasons made obvious in this thread - it's just so very easy to make "rubbish" crimps, and "a bit easier" to glue things together with solder.
If those stupid crimp tools aren't so ridiculously expensive, people wouldn't use cheap bad pliers. I mean seriously, 50 Euros or pounds for simple piece of metal? C'mon, for 50 Euros I'll buy mobile phone.Probably not the obvious reasons you are thinking of - LPG (basically commercial propane) is highly flammable, but it's completely contained.
It really is down to stopping people doing conversions with wrongly sized terminals "crimped" using the cheap plier type of tool. With soldering, at least if you get it stuck in the first place, it's most likely going to stay stuck. If you don't get it stuck, then it's normally obvious as the terminal drops off the wire between soldering and crimping the strain relief.
Yeah but a mobile phone will only crimp yer walletIf those stupid crimp tools aren't so ridiculously expensive, people wouldn't use cheap bad pliers. I mean seriously, 50 Euros or pounds for simple piece of metal? C'mon, for 50 Euros I'll buy mobile phone.
get me a samsung galaxy A70 then. i give you 100 eurines.If those stupid crimp tools aren't so ridiculously expensive, people wouldn't use cheap bad pliers. I mean seriously, 50 Euros or pounds for simple piece of metal? C'mon, for 50 Euros I'll buy mobile phone.
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