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your thoughts please,

domestic pir

16th style board- m/s and rcd split load
pvc wiring aprox 2 years

so then, no rcd to all circuits that now require one.
all lighting on 1 circuit

observation codes 1-4, what would you code them as? both 4s? i have had several different opinions from several different sparks. how do u go about telling someone that their 2yr old installation no longer complies?
then lets say after that report the client wants bathroom complete bathroom ripout and rewire/ refit.
would u upgrade the 5 yr old board in the price as a must or just rcbo a new circuit to bathroom?

thoughts and opinions welcome and appreciated.
 
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P.I.R are not retrospective. The lighting circuits not RCD protective would be code 4. Your 2nd question regarding the bathroom refurb. The cost of an RCBO (£20 ish) isnt a lot of money when they are paying for a refurb.

Things change and we have to accept the 17th edition has arrived !

Mark
 

andyb

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The Electrical Safety Council has published a Best Practice Guide for Periodic Testing and has agreed codes with all the main electrical bodies, NICEIC,ECA etc.

I've put a link below

http://www.esc.org.uk/pdfs/business-and-community/electrical-industry/BPG4_08.pdf
 
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randyrat

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Agree with MPfisher....only new stuff has to comply. Fit RCBO to cover the addition...job done. Seems a common question this one.....another example of confusion with the new regs...
 
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WarrenG

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Although existing installations need to be assessed against the requirements of the 17th Edition, this does not necessarily mean that they require upgrading, unless a departure from the latest requirements constitutes an immediate or potential danger.
You would therefore issue a ‘code 4’ Does not comply with the current issue of BS 7671 on a PIR

(Source: ESC)

As for the customer, there is nothing you can do about the regulations changing, but because they have an older installation (being only 2 yrs) doesn't mean that their it is unsafe.
Tell them that the industry has just improved the way we install the electrical systems incorporating some improved devices.
As said already, any additions just install to 17th Edition, Seperate circuits protection via RCBO's. EIC's
 
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sparkyt

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Although existing installations need to be assessed against the requirements of the 17th Edition, this does not necessarily mean that they require upgrading, unless a departure from the latest requirements constitutes an immediate or potential danger.
You would therefore issue a ‘code 4’ Does not comply with the current issue of BS 7671 on a PIR

(Source: ESC)

As for the customer, there is nothing you can do about the regulations changing, but because they have an older installation (being only 2 yrs) doesn't mean that their it is unsafe.
Tell them that the industry has just improved the way we install the electrical systems incorporating some improved devices.
As said already, any additions just install to 17th Edition, Seperate circuits protection via RCBO's. EIC's
thanks for that reply warren. a very accurate summary.
 
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