Electrician provided 17th Edition EICR and says its ok

[AmpMan]

He used AMTECH software to produce and said it's ok - the authorities will accept it.

Makes no sense to me. Please advise.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Hello Ampman.

I think you would need to provide a few more details in order to give a balanced answer.

When was the report carried out?
Why have you mentioned AMTECH software, what relevance does this have?
Do you have a copy of the report you could scan on (minus the electrician's and your details)?

Thanks.

 

[Andy78]

17th edition EICR ?

 

[AmpMan]

Hello Ampman.

I think you would need to provide a few more details in order to give a balanced answer.

When was the report carried out?
Why have you mentioned AMTECH software, what relevance does this have?
Do you have a copy of the report you could scan on (minus the electrician's and your details)?

Thanks.

Attached is page 1 as an example

Was carried out around a week ago.


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17th edition EICR ?

The electrician appeared to use 17th edition stationary which doesn't make sense for 18th edition requirements.

 

[Andy78]

The date on that report is 2018 ?

 

[JBW175]

Apart from it saying 17th edition right at the very bottom of the page, is there any difference between the forms? all tests carried out would / should have been to the 18th edition standard.

looks like he had some forms left over from NAPIT and he's running his old stock down maybe?

 

[westward10]

Something odd there as the declaration dates are 2019. I know this is possible but it is odd the difference is over a year.
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Apart from it saying 17th edition right at the very bottom of the page, is there any difference between the forms? all tests carried out would / should have been to the 18th edition standard.

looks like he had some forms left over from NAPIT and he's running his old stock down maybe?

When was the test actually carried out.

 

[JBW175]

Something odd there as the declaration dates are 2019. I know this is possible but it is odd the difference is over a year.
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When was the test actually carried out.

Jesus, i didn't notice the test date of 2018, had my glasses on too.
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that'll teach me for only scanning over the document ?

 

[AmpMan]

Apart from it saying 17th edition right at the very bottom of the page, is there any difference between the forms? all tests carried out would / should have been to the 18th edition standard.

looks like he had some forms left over from NAPIT and he's running his old stock down maybe?

You can't have forms left over if they're electronic.

I know for a fact NAPIT/NICEIC would never endorse this practice and the forms would be void/not valid. Just seeing if anyone here has any other thoughts.

Do you guys think the 2018 test date is merely an accident? I don't think it was.

 

[DPG]

I think you need to speak to him again. Not sure how we can know what his thoughts or reasons are/were.

 

[AmpMan]

I think you need to speak to him again. Not sure how we can know what his thoughts or reasons are/were.

Already had that conversation - no real justification except that he does it all the time. Doesn't stack up.

 

[westward10]

When was the test carried out.

 

[DPG]

Already had that conversation - no real justification except that he does it all the time. Doesn't stack up.

Seems strange. Does he always backdate the date field as well though?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Is this report just for your own piece of mind or have you been asked for it as you are selling the house, moving in etc?
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When was the test carried out.

The OP said 1 week ago.

 

[JBW175]

You can't have forms left over if they're electronic.

I know for a fact NAPIT/NICEIC would never endorse this practice and the forms would be void/not valid. Just seeing if anyone here has any other thoughts.

Do you guys think the 2018 test date is merely an accident? I don't think it was.

curious to read what the rest of the report says?

i'm wondering why he's only given the report 12 months until next inspection?

now i've not got GN3 or my BBB handy at present, but i'm pretty sure it should be 5 years as long as all remedial action has been taken, or on change of occupancy.

standing by to be corrected if wrong.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

curious to read what the rest of the report says?

i'm wondering why he's only given the report 12 months until next inspection?

now i've not got GN3 or my BBB handy at present, but i'm pretty sure it should be 5 years as long as all remedial action has been taken, or on change of occupancy.

standing by to be corrected if wrong.

That’s a good point. 1 year is pretty short if this is for a normal domestic house! The dates are all a bit odd.

I think I would ask the electrician some specific questions regarding the dates.

 

[AmpMan]

curious to read what the rest of the report says?

i'm wondering why he's only given the report 12 months until next inspection?

now i've not got GN3 or my BBB handy at present, but i'm pretty sure it should be 5 years as long as all remedial action has been taken, or on change of occupancy.

standing by to be corrected if wrong.

Made an error on special locations already and ticked both boxes for RCD fault protection and additional protection when one should have been N/A and the next should have been a tick.

Ironically, we have electrical knowledge ourselves and only have NICEIC membership on board to assist with a certain profile of work we do. Although we don't do EICR's ourselves, it's ironic that we have more knowledge than many electricians that practice it all the time. At least that's my perception. Far, far too many cowboys around.

 

[richy3333]

Retest dates are to the engineers discretion but a maximum of 10 years for a normal domestic property. Is this rented?

 

[AmpMan]

Retest dates are to the engineers discretion but a maximum of 10 years for a normal domestic property. Is this rented?

Yes it's rented and the EICR was needed as the property is about to be turned into a HMO.

 

[richy3333]

Rented and HMO would normally be 5 years unless the engineer felt it should be otherwise. Table 3.2 GN3 refers.