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Thanks for that UK, I will have need for one in a week or two. It's a tidy up in a domestic garage and I haven't the heart to put a plastic one in that will ..................
Not forgetting the "REDS & BROWNS GO ERE!!", "BLACKS & BLUES GO ERE!!" Stickers
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All terminals will be Wago type connectors inc the tails for 5WWs ...LOL...
Also a caution notice ;
Installed by Electrical Trainee, check house insurance policy ...
uksparks
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I think the only thing is the price as I can buy a plastic hager equivalent for £32 plus the breakers, so you are £90 more already, so I think I'll have to offer people both from now on and explain it all, but as of next year then the prices will need to go up a bit, possibly take a small hit on the profit to help make it still happily affordable to all though.
Stuff that, do you think heating engineers would take a hit if they had to install a more expensive boiler forced upon them by regulations.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1kGDhu0Fso
hager video of the new board. Looks like maxi trunking to keep everything tidy. Im sure they will start selling non combustable trunking too...
hager video of the new board. Looks like maxi trunking to keep everything tidy. Im sure they will start selling non combustable trunking too...
Its not just the extra cost of the board, my wholesaler has a leaflet from wiska that details various entry glands from one for tails and earth to glands for flat T+E. Its the SPRINT range
Someone is going to cuss like f£$k when they install that tight to the ceiling and then try and get that cover on. You just know that is going to happen. But not to me!! lol
I looked at their website and video the other day ... I do not see how any conflagration would be contained by uPVC trunking ... it seems to me to defeat the concept of a non-combustible enclosure. At least, one assumes, it passes the the relevant BS via the 'non-combustible' route. No blobs of melted plastic upon the floor, but the uPVC trunking and insulation may be burning nicely!
It is what it is mate, undercharging drives the price down across the board (excuse the pun).
I must admit , that is pretty impressive.
I wonder if they will actually stop manufacturing the almost universal domestic 5+5 insulated?
uksparks
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At what point do you think people will stop fitting them I guess? I frm now on will try to push the metal as would like to fit one!
uksparks
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Id never really thought about tail clamps until I saw that today.
I might start "designing" right now, my potential insulated consumer unit changes for the next few years lol.
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Two issues I have reading this thread:
1. Why are we talking about absorbing the price hike. We need to pass this on.
2. If the regs say it is required why are some on here saying they will go against it? It is what it is.
Great bit of kit though from Hager. They tend to be quite competitive on price so watch this space. Mind you. They may be taking an early advantage and prices will fall quickly when the competition start releasing their options.
1. Why are we talking about absorbing the price hike. We need to pass this on.
2. If the regs say it is required why are some on here saying they will go against it? It is what it is.
Great bit of kit though from Hager. They tend to be quite competitive on price so watch this space. Mind you. They may be taking an early advantage and prices will fall quickly when the competition start releasing their options.
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What you mean a advert just puts across a good point of product? Well I never knew that.
uksparks
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I dont want to absorb it as such, but would be willing to move a bit on price to get a job as you are basically upping the price by another £100.
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No. The manufacturer is. Once the other manufacturers start releasing theirs the prices will tumble. No rush yet to install these.
1. Because people these days have some sort of natural aversion to charging for what they're worth. Mainly because there are so many people out there who aren't worth jack $h!t so prices remain low.
2. You haven't really been paying attention of late have you? What is required is a board made of non-combustible material. Steel is an example of such a material, nothing more. In fact, if a board complies with BS EN 61439-3 then it is by definition non-combustible. There are numerous plastic boards that comply with this standard.
It does look like a nice bit of kit, I can't argue with that. What I will say though is that it's a complete and utter waste of money considering Hager's current plastic boards also comply with AMD 3.
Buy it and all you do is play in to the hands of the manufacturers who are doing all in their power to perpetuate this myth that new boards 'have' to be steel. Put it this way, come January, unless we as a trade start to wise the f**k up, where the board manufacturers are concerned, all their Christmas's will have come early!
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1. Agreed
2. I never mentioned anything about steel or any other material. My point was some seem to just want to fight any change. I really could not care less what the material is as long as it complies next year. BEAMA have said that plastic enclosures meeting the 960 degree glow wire test and built to BS EN 61439-3 will not be classed as non-combustable under the regulation so there is still mixed messages here. No doubt further clarification will be needed.
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Me personally? Fall in line. And I would be happy to do so.
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