How can they justify the increase in your electricity bill !?

Mike Johnson · Mar 5, 2022

I do think you have a justifiable reason to charge a supplement for the non envisaged unprecedented heating oil price rise, when you originally set your charge's you did not know there was going to be a war, well I didn't, but my wife is clairvoyant, well she always tell me what I want.

7029 dave · Mar 5, 2022

Yeah just pass it on to the end consumer, nothing changes.

Mike Johnson · Mar 5, 2022

7029 dave said:
Yeah just pass it on to the end consumer, nothing changes.

How else do you compensate for an increase in costs?

brianmoooore · Mar 5, 2022

I have no say whatsoever in setting the holiday charges. Any increase would have to be made by the company that I'm under contract to provide accommodation for. They get the bookings, take an outrageous commission and other charges, and pass the remainder on to me.

7029 dave · Mar 5, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
How else do you compensate for an increase in costs?

I did not say there is another way. Im free to moan about it though.

Zerax · Mar 5, 2022

Diddy said:
What's political about the facts ? Electricity in France is cheaper now and has been for decades lol. They are state owned. Like you say always question what you read and hear even if it is what you want to hear just to confirm a preconception.

Price differences are due to many many things.... but being state owned makes things more expensive ! It's down to the highly inefficient way they are run.

Zerax · Mar 5, 2022

7029 dave said:
Makes me wonder if nationalization of the energy sector would be better, because we just cant keep taking these price rise's.

There is no one single solution... but a range of things that need to be done... like re-opening the Rough gas storage facility, removing the ridiculous 'green' levies, having more nuclear power, make FIT more like 1:1, immediately stopping new builds from having gas boilers, increasing the building regulation standards on insulation, importing more LNG.. etc etc.... Nationalised industries have been proven, time and time again to be highly inefficient.

Zerax · Mar 5, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
...the Electricity supplier being a non profit making organisation not having to satisfy its share holders the cost would be held down.

No... it doesn't work that way. 'Non-profit' organistions simply load up the expenses so that they don't show a profit. It's largely a scam. A very frequently used scam, but still a scam.

It is generally accepted that the 'profit motive' is a good thing... in that it encourages efficiencies, similar to competition.

7029 dave · Mar 5, 2022

IMO in general with any private sector its all about making money so much money to feed the fat cat salary's and greedy shareholders etc, and they dont want to put anything back into the infrastructure.
With the take up of the electric car, doubt the system will be able to cope because its antiquated due to lack of investment in it.
The unions were crushed by Maggie Thatcher decades ago, yes they got too big for their boots and held the country to ransom, but them days are long gone.

LOL I sound like a leftie but am not just a realist

nicebutdim · Mar 5, 2022

7029 dave said:
The unions were crushed by Maggie Thatcher decades ago, yes they got too big for their boots and held the country to ransom, but them days are long gone.

Public sector union representatives are still a powerful force and wield significant influence over one of our largest political parties. That influence isn't often favourable to workers in the private sector.

Mike Johnson · Mar 5, 2022

Zerax said:
No... it doesn't work that way. 'Non-profit' organistions simply load up the expenses so that they don't show a profit. It's largely a scam. A very frequently used scam, but still a scam.

It is generally accepted that the 'profit motive' is a good thing... in that it encourages efficiencies, similar to competition.

To be perfectly honest I don't care as long as the price to the consumer is held down to an affordable level, "profit motive" is only a good thing if you are a share holder, its never passed onto the consumer.

OnlQQker · Mar 5, 2022

Well, at least Elon Musk is standing up towards them!

Elon Musk says Starlink won’t block Russian news sources ‘unless at gunpoint’

Elonk Musk tweets he’s ‘sorry to be a free speech absolutist’

www.independent.co.uk

ayanahmedco · Apr 25, 2022

What is FPA? I notice a lot of charges in my bill mentioned on my bill very month and sometimes they are more than the actual bill. Really strange.

brianmoooore · Apr 25, 2022

Fuel Price Adjustment....

ayanahmedco · Apr 26, 2022

In the UK electricity getting expensive. I think installing solar and wind can decrease the prices but the best and cheap if we have dams. A country like India or Pakistan has a lot of potential to produce the electricity through water

ayanahmedco · Jun 16, 2022

Why do the electricity companies increase the per-unit price after a set number of units? I usually see the price almost double after 300 units.

Alexywasko · Oct 22, 2024

It’s frustrating when electricity prices jump, especially when usage hasn't changed much or even when the energy comes from renewables. One thing that might help explain this is how suppliers, like E-on or others, pass on costs. Even if you’re using 100% renewable energy, the overall system’s infrastructure, maintenance, and distribution fees still come into play. So, the rise in oil prices indirectly affects the overall grid, impacting renewables too.