UK Is a standard Pendant a Class 2 fitting?

[7029 dave]

My GF mum house has no earth on the lighting circuits, pre 1966 build, has some metal light fittings, she is 90 years old and does not want the house rewiring.
I changed a faulty metal class1 fitting for a pendant (to her disapproval) , have advised to replace the other remaining fittings cant do no more.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

There is no way that pendant holder it Class II is has exposed live pins. The part no is K1170RPWHI and the only site which shows that symbol is Amazon none of the other sites do.

Not from Amazon, I bought this from Screwfix.

 

[westward10]

Not from Amazon, I bought this from Screwfix.

It looks a bit ad hoc I would query it with MK.

 

[nicebutdim]

Part number would be K1186WHI

I'm guessing it must be the 'shockguard' version, which only makes connection when lamp is fitted.


Edit: That part number isn't one of their shockguard pendants.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

It looks a bit ad hoc I would query it with MK.

I don't think it is. My preferred pendant sets are MK, they've always been like this as long as I've been using them. I like the terminals in them.

Here's another lampholder, don't know what brand. I bought it a while back from an online shop for a table lamp repair.

 

[westward10]

Very odd I would never deem them Class II.

 

[nicebutdim]

I don't think it is. My preferred pendant sets are MK, they've always been like this as long as I've been using them. I like the terminals in them.

Here's another lampholder, don't know what brand. I bought it a while back from an online shop for a table lamp repair.

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It's definitely not - I edited that last post while you were typing.

Makes little sense to have a double insulated symbol when, at most, slight pressure gives acces to live parts.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Part number would be K1186WHI

I'm guessing it must be the 'shockguard' version, which only makes connection when lamp is fitted.


Edit: That part number isn't one of their shockguard pendants.

I just tested the MK pendant set, and got continuity between the live terminal in the ceiling rose and one of the pins, without pressing it in, so no special safety guards as far as I can tell

 

[DPG]

I just tested the MK pendant set, and got continuity between the live terminal in the ceiling rose and one of the pins, without pressing it in, so no special safety guards as far as I can tell

Maybe the class 2 status can be when the device is in normal use, ie. When fitted with a bulb?

 

[westward10]

But that wouldn't satisfy the requirements for Class II. I know in BS7671 these lamp holders are somewhat an exclusion for exposed live parts so maybe that plays a part but I don't see it.