JIB Electrotechnical Certification Scheme (ECS) Jib card Ecs gold

[Tankie123]

Hi

I'm new to the forum I want to apply for a jib gold card just wondering if I would qualify with the below quals or do I need more?

236 part 1 electrical installation 1996

am1 achievement measurement

NVQ 3 2356

2391 testing

17th edition

have done the ecs health and safety exam

just winding if I would need to go back to college

thanks

 

[uksparks]

I'd probably say yes you would get a gold card.

 

[Simonslimline]

Was the 236 not part 1 and part 2?

 

[Tankie123]

Was the 236 not part 1 and part 2?

i didn't do part 2 as I was a multi-trade for a maint company so went on to do part 1 plumbing! Would it make a difference then?

 

[Simonslimline]

i didn't do part 2 as I was a multi-trade for a maint company so went on to do part 1 plumbing! Would it make a difference then?

Not to sure. I am pretty sure you need a technical certificate at level 3 for proper grading though.

 

[LankyWill]

you need Am2

 

[R G]

I think there was time up to the 90s when it was possible , If I were you I would give them a ring as that is what I did back in the 80s , the company I worked for then was not a JIB company so thats what I did and applied of my own back and then took the 2391 later and got the JIB approved Gold card , just ring them they will tell you ....

 

[Risteard]

Not to sure. I am pretty sure you need a technical certificate at level 3 for proper grading though.

That is as part of the NVQ though, but he claims that he has the 2356 NVQ.

 

[Risteard]

you need Am2

As part of the NVQ, which he says he has. Therefore there isn't a separate need for it if he has achieved the NVQ without it.

 

[Leesparkykent]

you need Am2

He won't need it Will. As Long as he has the NVQ3 and 2382 he will get a gold card with either maintenance electrician or installation electrician, depending which NVQ3 he did. The AM2 is now mandatory as part of the newish 2357 NVQ but wasn't as part of the 2356.

 

[Tankie123]

He won't need it Will. As Long as he has the NVQ3 and 2382 he will get a gold card with either maintenance electrician or installation electrician, depending which NVQ3 he did. The AM2 is now mandatory as part of the newish 2357 NVQ but wasn't as part of the 2356.

thanks for all the replays so just to clarify not having the part 2 236 won't matter?

 

[LankyWill]

He won't need it Will. As Long as he has the NVQ3 and 2382 he will get a gold card with either maintenance electrician or installation electrician, depending which NVQ3 he did. The AM2 is now mandatory as part of the newish 2357 NVQ but wasn't as part of the 2356.

You old timers know everything

 

[Richo77]

I thought you would of had to have 236 part 2 before doing the NVQ 3. I would say you need the 236 part 2 and NVQ 3 to be graded.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I thought you would of had to have 236 part 2 before doing the NVQ 3. I would say you need the 236 part 2 and NVQ 3 to be graded.

Some nvq training providers offered the underpinning knowledge as part of the nvq. All the jib really care about is the nvq .

 

[Richo77]

Oh I see, Electrical quals seem so complicated. Why can't there be one set way of getting qualified. Maybe it is better now with the 2357. But it's been a shambles the last 20 years. I've lost count of the number of courses and course numbers!!

 

[Tankie123]

Thanks I can't get my head round it all when we did part 1 they told us we were qualified and I've heard some say that the 2391 replaces the old B cert I did the nvq 3 as the company paid for it I did have to resit a theory exam I will submit everything to the JIB and see what happens it's just that on certain sites we are getting asked for it especially government ones

 

[wayneob]

Basically a tech cert now in the eyes of the JIB ain't worth the paper it's written on! I did the 236 pt 1&2 and to be honest they were only interested in the NVQ3 pretty much told me I didn't need to send it in!! So as long as you have you NVQ you'll be fine mate you'll get approved! Easy now a days ain't it

 

[TJ Anderson]

It is because them NVQ3 requires underpinning knowledge and a site diary. That is why the JIB like it, they don't have to check anymore than that. You can still utilise your old tech certs as underpinning knowledge.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Basically a tech cert now in the eyes of the JIB ain't worth the paper it's written on! I did the 236 pt 1&2 and to be honest they were only interested in the NVQ3 pretty much told me I didn't need to send it in!! So as long as you have you NVQ you'll be fine mate you'll get approved! Easy now a days ain't it

Its because the jib know that you have the underpinning knowledge....you would have to show your tech certs to enrole on the nvq or would have to do the underpinning knowledge as part of the nvq.

Edit: Didn't see TJ Andersons post above when replying

 

[7029 dave]

Well TBH , if the JIB won't except the good old 236 C&G AB&C, to get their gold card, I would say stick it up your jacks, bloody outrageous.!!!