JIB Electrotechnical Certification Scheme (ECS) Jib card Ecs gold

[R G]

I have read posts on here with guys having the C&G 236 abc, an still only getting an JIB labourer's card.? Not understanding this, That core qualification was- is an bloody good standard,anyway just gone onto the JIB website to look for myself, and the way I am reading it, with the older quals you will be graded, with gold card one off,but it will only run for 18months, after that NVQ required, otherwise you will graded as an labourer.

Thats what I had as well Dave , the 236 parts 1 & 2 (A+B), didn't take the C course though but wish I had , and got an initial JIB card as Electrician later in 2002 I took 2391 and got the card upgraded to Approved Electrician Gold card , I too heard that a time limit was in place when this could be done thats why I had to do the 2391 fairly quick , I don't know what applies today though if you go the same route with older qualifications and want a JIB card now

 

[Leesparkykent]

I see what your saying but from what leesparkykent is saying is that you can acheive the NVQ by covering the underpinning knowledge once enrolled in the NVQ I think??the older NVQ 2356 that is??

Yes that's correct but obviously you wouldn't complete the NVQ untill the the underpining knowledge part was also complete. Now its all enrolled in to one qualification for apprentices..nvq2357 level 3 which basically includes the underpinning knowledge (like part 1 part 2),AM2 and portfolio.

 

[Richo77]

NVQ was brought in the year I started my apprenticeship. Sept 94. There was total confusion at the college I attended. We did the c and g 236 1 and 2. Also we did AM1 and AM2. All the boys in my class left college with these quals however no one passed the NVQ. It took about 3 years to get the log books drawn up and handed to us. By that time we had gone through college and left. Some people said we needed the NVQ some said we didn't. I thought sod it, I left now and as far as I was concerned I had the same quals as the guys I was working with. My cousin who passed out as an electrician in 1993 had the same quals as me. We both sent off for a JIB card. He got one and they said I could have a labourers card, because after 1994 I should have an NVQ. They even put NVQ 3 on my cousins card!!! Even tho he hadn't done it. Loads of young boys must have been in the same boat as me around 1997. Since then I bit the bullet paid £550 to XS training and gained my NVQ and JIB card. I looked a bit of a knob going around and asking apprentices and other workmates to take photos of me next to work I had installed!! Apprentices were saying how come your telling me what to do if your not even qualified!! Haha. It was embarrassing

 

[R G]

I know there was a lot of confusion around that time because an apprentice I had with me had all sorts of problems , he did a distance learning apprenticeship too and a JTL type thing as well ...

It seems to me they have confused thing too much now...

 

[TJ Anderson]

I see what your saying but from what leesparkykent is saying is that you can acheive the NVQ by covering the underpinning knowledge once enrolled in the NVQ I think??the older NVQ 2356 that is??

My 2330 and apprenticeship was cut short after fighting with my mentor and taking the van back to the yard leaving him stranded lol. I did 2356 without a tech cert and did extra units. 2356, 17th and 2391 is all I sent to JIB. I have a JIB Approved grade card.

 

[wayneob]

My 2330 and apprenticeship was cut short after fighting with my mentor and taking the van back to the yard leaving him stranded lol. I did 2356 without a tech cert and did extra units. 2356, 17th and 2391 is all I sent to JIB. I have a JIB Approved grade card.

it does seem now that's all they want but the NVQ is now the bent mark

 

[Englishman]

Said many times on here that I still don't have it. My apprenticeship was a bit unofficial, and I paid most of it myself, as a result I never enrolled to do the nvq due to money. The qualification now needed is the 2357 which as far as I'm aware, blends the new 2330 into it but if you have the 2330, you can do a bridging unit which takes you straight to the NVQ part. It does grate me that we're virtually ungraded in the eyes of the JIB until we've taken a few pictures and done the AM2, but I assume I'll be glad when I've done it and got my approved gold card.

Thing is as well, nobody outside the trade seems to know anything about the JIB, and I think it would help if the general public knew that it was a better indicator of competency than a domestic installer registration.

 

[7029 dave]

Said many times on here that I still don't have it. My apprenticeship was a bit unofficial, and I paid most of it myself, as a result I never enrolled to do the nvq due to money. The qualification now needed is the 2357 which as far as I'm aware, blends the new 2330 into it but if you have the 2330, you can do a bridging unit which takes you straight to the NVQ part. It does grate me that we're virtually ungraded in the eyes of the JIB until we've taken a few pictures and done the AM2, but I assume I'll be glad when I've done it and got my approved gold card.

Thing is as well, nobody outside the trade seems to know anything about the JIB, and I think it would help if the general public knew that it was a better indicator of competency than a domestic installer registration.

IMO if you are working on new site builds then yes go for it, otherwise why bother.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Said many times on here that I still don't have it. My apprenticeship was a bit unofficial, and I paid most of it myself, as a result I never enrolled to do the nvq due to money. The qualification now needed is the 2357 which as far as I'm aware, blends the new 2330 into it but if you have the 2330, you can do a bridging unit which takes you straight to the NVQ part. It does grate me that we're virtually ungraded in the eyes of the JIB until we've taken a few pictures and done the AM2, but I assume I'll be glad when I've done it and got my approved gold card.

Thing is as well, nobody outside the trade seems to know anything about the JIB, and I think it would help if the general public knew that it was a better indicator of competency than a domestic installer registration.

You could do the jib mature candidate assessment.

 

[wayneob]

I think it's a case of just bite the bullet and do the NVQ as for the AM2 I did the AM1 and to be honest looking at what's involved in the AM2 these days it's pretty much the old AM1!!