More than one circuit on a breaker; what code, plz!

[Goody]

What code should I give where a breaker serves more than one circuit , please see the picture. Could I suggest a CU change as I could not find another breaker of similar type to stick the other circuit to? The reg. says you can spur off using a JB, at the socket or at a breaker. What is your opinion, guys?

Cheers!

 

[ezzzekiel]

dont think its an issue and dosent warrant a code

 

[topquark]

What code should I give where a breaker serves more than one circuit , please see the picture. Could I suggest a CU change as I could not find another breaker of similar type to stick the other circuit to? The reg. says you can spur off using a JB, at the socket or at a breaker. What is your opinion, guys?

Cheers!


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What regulation would you quote to say it's a problem. Technically there is no violation by doing that. Although it's not good practice IMHO as home owner can't easily isolate one circuit only that way (unless they have the skill to isolate and remove the other core of course!).

 

[Octopus]

Circuit is OK, but anyone with a board like that would benefit from an new one full of RCBO's

 

[trev]

All you can do is recommend a new CU mate, hopefully they'll bite on it

 

[dingledong]

surely it depends on what the two circuits are ??

 

[topquark]

surely it depends on what the two circuits are ??

Yep, and it's often smoke alarms and lighting. Where someone has had smokes fitted retrospectively so no separate means of isolation for the smokes

 

[GLENNSPARK]

and its an accepted way to deal with the borrowed neutral n all.......

 

[GaryM]

Look up 'circuit' in definitions then you'll come to the conclusion that it's just one circuit.

 

[dingledong]

ok my ring circuit is not a ring but i stick a 32 amp fuse in . now what code could that be a 1
i have a radial circuit on a 32 and stick a lighting cicuit into it as well so he must find out what the two wires are
though hie has not mentioned different size cable :tounge_smile:

 

[GaryM]

I'm a little lost with that post!

You say your 'ring circuit' is not a ring though you call it a ring? It's a radial circuit which is incorrectly supplied by a 32A OPD. Most likely that would result in a code 2.
Was it designed to be a ring final and as such has suffered cable damage?

 

[PC Electrics]

what are the two circuits?

 

[mogga]

As for being unable to get breakers of similar type BnQ have that many if you ask them nicely they may even sell you 1

 

[GaryM]

what are the two circuits?

Multiple conductors, one circuit!

Circuit - An assembly of electrical equipment supplied from the same origin and protected against overcurrent by the same protective device(s).

 

[PC Electrics]

Exactly what are we supposed to be looking at? The three 2.5s in that 30A? Is that a RFC and a spur? If so, that's okay. Or is it something else? if so, please explain and I'm sure you can get a better answer.

 

[telectrix]

also, you have an unused way in that board. split the circuits and fit a 16A? fuse and carrier in the unused way.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

If its the red one, might be ok, might be in 4 mil !

 

[morph]

from the photo it looks like a spur from a RFC so no code

 

[fuzzydunlop]

Scary thread

 

[GLENNSPARK]

so the board would be a 4 anyway unless the bathroom is fed from this board without any RCD protection and no supplementary bonding....then its a 2.....