Periodic inspection

[domestelec]

Hi Guys,

Appreciate the comments, I am the engineer that carried out the EICR on this property. My doubts were raised over the the BS 4293 having overload protection, if the device did not have overload protection I would have no alternative but to give a code 1. BS 4293 were replaced with the BS EN 61008 standard and listed as an RCCB. Rather than just failing the board on these grounds I felt I should research it first. After researching it on the internet I found much conflicting detail due to the age of the devices. I have attempted to locate federal electric technical help but to no joy. I contacted the NICEIC technical helpline however they could not give details of specific units and I was to refer to the manufacture.This article by the IET states that a RCCB has no integral overload protection http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/15/insp-test-rcd.cfm . If anyone has any literature or information relating to this it would be much appreciated. I also understand the comments of the costing I quoted for changing the consumer unit, that is my choice given the extent of works already carried out and the simplicity of the install, given I already have the dead test values typed up on Amtech it is only a couple of hrs local work and screw fix offer dual RCD consumer units for £58.99.

Many Thanks

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hi Guys,

Appreciate the comments, I am the engineer that carried out the EICR on this property. My doubts were raised over the the BS 4293 having overload protection, if the breakers did not have overload protection I would have no alternative but to give a code 1. BS 4293 were replaced with the BS EN 61008 standard and listed as an RCCB. Rather than just failing the board on these grounds I felt I should research it first. After researching it on the internet I found much conflicting detail due to the age of the devices. I have attempted to locate federal electric technical help but to no joy. I contacted the NICEIC technical helpline however they could not give details of specific units and I was to refer to the manufacture.This article by the IET states that a RCCB has no integral overload protection http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/15/insp-test-rcd.cfm . If anyone has any literature or information relating to this it would be much appreciated. I also understand the comments of the costing I quoted for changing the consumer unit, that is my choice given the extent of works already carried out and the simplicity of the install, given I already have the dead test values typed up on Amtech it is only a couple of hrs local work and screw fix offer dual RCD consumer units for £58.99.

Many Thanks

rite...i think i`v seen enough of this crud...
go back to college will you.....

 

[domestelec]

You'll have to excuse the terminology, I did try to edit prior to anyone seeing that, clearly not fast enough. I really would appreciate some serious advice.

 

[telectrix]

do these devices have an amperage rating on them, e.g. 15A, 30A etc.? if so, they're RCBOs and have O/L and S/C protection.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

You'll have to excuse the terminology, I did try to edit prior to anyone seeing that, clearly not fast enough. I really would appreciate some serious advice.

no probs mate...
i talks tough but i kicks tougher...:grinningelf:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

do these devices have an amperage rating on them, e.g. 15A, 30A etc.? if so, they're RCBOs and have O/L and S/C protection.

but even so Tel...
a quick visual tells you what your dealing with...

 

[domestelec]

do these devices have an amperage rating on them, e.g. 15A, 30A etc.? if so, they're RCBOs and have O/L and S/C protection.

Thanks telectrix

I also thought that but a standard RCD also has an ampere rating Ie : In: 63 A, Ideltan: 30mA so I couldn't accept it on face value, the only thing i could go off was the BS number which leads me to believe it is an RCCB.

 

[oldtimer]

but even so Tel...
a quick visual tells you what your dealing with...

Yea but in this day and age of digital pics why is it hardly any of the posters attach one ?

 

[telectrix]

difficult to tell from the photo, but i can't imagine it was installed with no OCPDs for the circuits in question.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

difficult to tell from the photo, but i can't imagine it was installed with no OCPDs for the circuits in question.

yep...
only thing i would be concerned about here is overload....
as long as In of RCBOs to 4293 is good n all that lot...