Recalibrate test equipment for Part P Assesment.

[NJTELECTRICAL]

Hello all, I have got my first Part P assement at the end of the month. My test equipment was calibrated and certificated in but that expired In October 2009. I have purchased a Cal Card which i use weekly to check my testers and i am satisfied that they are up to scratch and reading correctly.

My issue is do i have to get them re calibrated and certified for my part P assesment or will it suffice for the assessor to see that i check them weekly and have this documented???

My part P assesment is with Elecsa. Please can anyone help???

Cheers NJT

 

[martinxxxxxx]

I just had my elecsa assessment. He took a real hard look at the certificate and was even interested in which calibrator that they used.

I am really guessing, but at the cost of these assessments, on the first one I would get recalbrated. Then ask. if they say it is ok let me know, I would be able to save money next year too. but this year don't give yourself extra things to worry about.

Thant my advice Martin

 

[acat]

Give them a ring and ask some bodies allow 2 years before calibration is required. The cost of the call could save you the calibration fee. Just remember to get the name of the person you spoke to or even better email and keep a hard copy reply.


Good luck with your assessment.



Chris

 

[Hilly]

Self calibration every three months. record the results. file them. easy

 

[NJTELECTRICAL]

Just for all info really, Had the assesment and passed.I ended upbuying some new testers instead of getting them calibrated. Got the Megger MFT 1553 which i highly recommend.
He did say on the assesment though that once you have had them calibrated, you can check them yourself monthly and record the results on the sheet that you can download from the Elecsa website. This is for the low ohms and high ohms which can be done with a cal card. This will surfice for the Dead tests. For the Live tests they are happy for you to pick a point in your house and ckeck that every month. Providing you keep getting the same (ish)reading then you are ok. Once the reading starts changing a lot then get them calibrated.Again if you make a note of this each month then you will be fine.
E.G pick your cooker point and do the RCD test and Loop test. Use the same point each month then you have something to measure against.
Hope this is soe use for somebody.

By the way, he also mentioned that there is new legislation coming in for testing/periodics. Did you know that when they had the floods down south last month, the first thing the insurance companies were asking for was the last periodic certificate. If the owner didn't have one they they would not pay out for the rewire of the property as the owner could not prove that the electrics were in good order before the flood. One to bear in mind eh! Finally the Insurance companies are recognising the Periodic. I appreciate that they are using it as a way to not pay out but for the Qualified Electrician it means that demand may increase.

 

[Spudnik]

If the owner didn't have one they they would not pay out for the rewire of the property as the owner could not prove that the electrics were in good order before the flood.

Now this is just my opinion, but if i was flooded and my insurance company refused to pay out because my electrics werent tested before it happened, i would see them in court.

 

[saveloy]

Now this is just my opinion, but if i was flooded and my insurance company refused to pay out because my electrics werent tested before it happened, i would see them in court.

I'd agree with that! Surely the insurance company should be asking for a copy of the PIR BEFORE they take your premium. Also what if your PIR was destroyed in the flood!

 

[Golden_Boy]

I'd agree with that! Surely the insurance company should be asking for a copy of the PIR BEFORE they take your premium. Also what if your PIR was destroyed in the flood!

Just do yourself a new one

Just as an aside.. I traveled a lot in my younger days and aquired several "documents" from market traders in India / Pakistan and the far east. these where often used for travel discounts etc. None of these where ever questioned and one official informed us that they wouldn't be able to tell one from another.

 

[ian.settle1]

Now this is just my opinion, but if i was flooded and my insurance company refused to pay out because my electrics werent tested before it happened, i would see them in court.

Insurance companies have more money than you, take one to court and I think you would be be blacked by all.

 

[Spudnik]

Insurance companies have more money than you, take one to court and I think you would be be blacked by all.

If they didnt request a PIR before the policy was taken out, they cannot use that as leverage in court.

And if they did, they would fail.

Been there, done that, worn the t-shirt.

 

[Peter Woodford]

does anyone know were i can get a cal card from

 

[Graeme Harrold]

You ca get them on the ELECSA website shop.

On the ELECSA front, had my assessment yesterday and he went through all my certs with a fine tooth comb and eluded to annual calibration. Dosent take long to have a cal done, so just send it in.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I have the Elecsa cal card. When they sold me it at Elex Fair last year i was told it is acceptable as a means of ensuring test kit is reading true, and if records kept it doesnt need a recal. However it only checks IR and continuity. So in answer to your question, YES you will need to get it calibrated as the calcard dosent check RCD, ZS,ZE, Voltage etc.

The card is handy to keep with the tester in case you get readings which dont appear to be as expected.

And make sure if it is due cal it is not in the next couple of days after your assessment!

Cheers.......Howard