Ring main.

[Mike Johnson]

After further investigation I am now going to have to contradict myself, it seem you can have two circuits into one MCB, but only under special conditions, they being two circuits of two remote switched sockets in the same room and marked up as such, presumably for table lamps? It also says "This convention is not applicable with reciprocating circuits" make of that what you will?

 

[Mark Wright]

"This convention is not applicable with reciprocating circuits" make of that what you will?

Same author as BS 7671 ??

 

[Electrics]

the problem in France is that anyone can do their own thing in their property, there is no legislation to stop them, it's only if the property is let short or long term that any type of check is carried out, this also applies on re-sale, but as with all of these things it's a tick box exercise carried out by non electricians, the only time a domestic building is checked is if it requires a new installation, then the Consul will check, this may only consist of one socket and one lighting circuit, but if they conform to the Regulations then the power will be connected.

I've just sold my French house and you're right - the only check done was the diagnostique guy sticking some machine into the sockets and that was it.

It's funny though - with all our legislation and rules and schemes etc European countries still insist we're 'unregulated' compared to them and their standards. Bit batty if you ask me.

 

[Mike Johnson]

They look down their respective nose's at the UK because of the use of Ring Mains and only just insisting on two RCD's in our DB's. Try telling a French Electrician that it's now called a Final Ring Circuit and see how profound the shrug of the shoulders would be.

I think the French are trying to tighten up on the Diagnostique, I have read somewhere they have to push the test button on the RCD's. What they most seem to be interested in now is Equipotential Bonding to the service's and bathrooms, but at least it's become a three page Diagnostique tick list.

 

[Mark Wright]

I sent a message to hager asking how many cables can be terminated into a MCB and here is detailed reply LOL!

Good Afternoon

You can only fit one cable into a MCB

Technical Support

Hager Ltd

So no more Rings

 

[DPG]

I sent a message to hager asking how many cables can be terminated into a MCB and here is detailed reply LOL!

Good Afternoon

You can only fit one cable into a MCB

Technical Support

Hager Ltd

So no more Rings

Can't believe their tech support dept said that. I would be taking that a bit further.

 

[pc1966]

You can only fit one cable into a MCB

What about both ends of the same cable?

 

[Mark Wright]

What about both ends of the same cable?

Yeah why not a mini ring

 

[Pete999]

Yeah why not a mini ring

What's a "mini ring"?

 

[Mark Wright]