I’m assuming the answer is quite a few of you? If so what did you think of it and how beneficial do you thinks it’s been to your career and overall knowledge?
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I have done it. Very much enjoyed the course. I did it on evening sessions rather than an intensive 5 day job which probably added to the positive experience I had with it.
It hasn't enhanced my career considerably as I am self employed, but certainly enhanced my personal understanding of cable design.
It hasn't enhanced my career considerably as I am self employed, but certainly enhanced my personal understanding of cable design.
Yeah I’ve been told it’s fairly difficult. That’s what I’m hoping for in terms of giving me a deeper understanding of the regs and a generally better understanding of the process involved during designing as this is ultimately the direction I want to go in
Apparently so. 40 man hours is the allotted timescale so I’m told. Looks quite an interesting project though to be fair but maybe that’s just me being sad lol
Depending on where you want to be a HNC/HND may be a better option. The 2396 is really just the application of the design calcs every electrician gets taught to entire installations instead of single circuits.
I have looked into the he hnc/hnd quals but from what i can gather it’s 2-3 years university? Unless you know otherwise and have any tips?
It gave me a better understanding of the design requirements/advice, mostly the appendices, but not of the regs as a whole.
I don't I'm afraid, but I think those timescales are right. It's not something I have done, but have heard that the 2396 is not a very useful or progressive course if higher education is your ultimate aim.
Quite a good course if you are not going to though.
Yeah I was talking more specifically about the regs that apply to design because like I say that’s the direction I want to go in. What do you know about the hnc/hnd then mate?
It is something I would like to do and would probably thoroughly enjoy but I’m not sure I’ve got the time for that. I would never see my kids and I don’t see them as much as I’d like to now. It’s not the cheapest of courses either. Your looking all in a good 10-15 grand depending on how far you go. Think I’ll have to settle for the 2396 and then a course in autocad and revit.
In that case I would thoroughly recommend the 2396 as a rewarding experience.
Have you gone on to get your site technician gold card or equivalent then or did you settle for the approved?
None of that. My card ran out years back and I have no need to renew it presently.
Self employed sole trader. I was when I did my course as well.
HND is a good route to take. it's highly theoretical though. a lot of complex maths, as i can remember i struggled with. mind you, that was before calculators were invented, a slide rule was the height of technology, digital referred to your fingers and toes, and test equipment had valves in.
So you have your hnd then? How long did it take and what sort of opportunity’s did it open up? What sort of positions were you applying for and for what sort of price range?
took 3 years, 6 months college and 6 months supposed to be practical learning in industry, but used as cheap labour on factory floor. then given a boring office job trying to make employers generators attain specified efficiencies. left after 6 months, disillusioned and went into r&d small motors in lab.then thought sod this 8 -5 crap, went into TV repairs with a couple of companies, then into alarms, electrical, etc. waste of a HND really, but could never find rewarding employment unless i was prepared to relocate into bandit country ( south of Brum).
I’m shocked to be honest. You sound like someone who knows exactly what they’re talking about and to back it up you had the hnd qualification? Was there a complete shortage of work around you? What do you do now if you don’t mind me asking?
no suitable employment in Staffs, at the time. i enrolled with job centre professional register in 1970, still waiting for them to send me any job details. now self-employed electrician/alarm installer. anything going. but @ 71 with bad back and knees, , winding down a bit.
Good on you mate. Still going strong. I’ll be happy just to make it to your age let alone still be working. Thats my reasons for wanting to go into design, my knees and other joints are not too bad at the minute so I want to try keep them that way. Meet too many older sparkies who’s bodies are ravaged from the job.
Did the five day intensive then took another two weeks off at home doing the project all day every day, using the Guidance Notes and 17th Edition.
Then I met someone who has never worked a day as an electrician or had any electrical qualifications but was well paid doing Design work using a fancy computer system
Then I met someone who has never worked a day as an electrician or had any electrical qualifications but was well paid doing Design work using a fancy computer system
Yes mate it’s annoying but you don’t actually need any electrical qualifications to be a designer. You will need to work alongside an engineer though. But if you have the electrical qualifications AND the autocad/revit expertise you are then a design engineer and can do both jobs. Which I’m counting on equating to more money.
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