Discuss Time for a new Electricians' union? in the Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net
What in the same mode as the American Electricians TU?Is it time a skilled trade like ours started our own union? Not part of Unite, not Unison, or any of the other other general unions but something that only accepts skilled C&G qualified sparks into membership?
You mean, like the competent electrician schemes? What would be the point/advantage of your “union”?Is it time a skilled trade like ours started our own union? Not part of Unite, not Unison, or any of the other other general unions but something that only accepts skilled C&G qualified sparks into membership?
Fair enough PPHi pete999
I respect your opinion.
I just feel the pendulum has swung too far in the employees direction.
The employers and industry are the ones that need a bit of protection now in order for them to give employees jobs.
If it swings back the other way I may come out on the unions side.
In addition to my Fair enough Petem from my experiences as a TU rep, many Unions especially the larger, more well known ones, are also wised up n Employers' right, I can see tour point though, in the cases I dealt with, it was quite a few, some disciplinary, some Ts&Cs some pay issues, the Union always involved management in all issues, and the outcome of many of these cases, weren't sympathetic to the individual, in fact in some cases I dealt with it was often the case of the individual being told to abide by the rules set out by the company, and stop being so childish, or words to that effect. Yes I agree companies need protection as well, which is why, in my opinion ALL parties, Employers and Employees need to be involved at all times.Fair enough PP
Sounds like it works well for both parties everyone knows where they stand and what they are getting paid.I’m in the ETU in Australia and Pay Dues.
Being a part of a Union is generally a good thing. I don’t like elements where lazy workers whinge about menial things to stop the job but I do agree on fair pay above award rates. The ETU fight for fair wages and Holiday pay and Big companies sign an enterprise bargain agreement (EBA) that outlines rates of pay. OT rates etc... if the companies had it there way they would pay dog biscuits and have negotiated wages and conditions. All of which create animosity between colleagues.
I don’t agree with “You have a job, be grateful” mindset. I’ve seen too many companies who enjoy the race to the bottom especially in the UK. Where they would rather employ a non licensed sparky because he charges 50 quid a day.
At least here to be awarded a large contract you have to abide by paying fair wages and employees who are union based are fully licensed and abide by there duty to perform an excellent standard of electrical work.