What percentage of Sparks voted Brexit?

[bigspark17]

I voted out, i did so and know we may have some hard years and uncertainty ahead but that britain remains british, our fathers & grandfathers didnt die in the wars for us to be ruled from brussels.
Hopefully we can go back to red/black pvc cable too

 

[westward10]

I am not British, I am English!

 

[Deleted account]

Let’s hope property prices don’t crash next year and belts don’t tighten. Bye bye business Hope I’m wrong. Another 20 years of austerity

I don't think your wrong fatalan. It's inevitable another 20 years of austerity will occur if we are in or out.

1.7 trillion in debt.

Before the austerity measures began we were borrowing 150 billion a year just to cover the interest.

We are now still borrowing 50 billion a year to cover that interest. We haven't even started paying of the debt.

Buy the way definately out for me.

 

[Deleted account]

I voted remain and would do so again.

If you look at how tax is spent our portion to the EU budget wasn't that much really.

I'm for the free movement of people within Europe so immigration wasn't an issue for me also most of the immigration we have is from outside Europe anyway.

Having said that, the result was leave, I respect it and we should now do just that, for better or worse.

Big bone of contention is how much do we give to the eu every year.
There is one simple answer, but everyone says a different number.
It would be nice to know.
It would have been nice to know the true figure that both sides agreed with before the vote.

 

[johnduffell]

To be fair the vacuum cleaners thing was actually a good idea, everyone who wasn't an avid Which reader was buying vacuum cleaners based on wattage so the manufacturers were just intentionally making noisy inefficient hot heavy cleaners to get the wattage up. Someone had to knock heads together at some point.
Best vacuum cleaner i use is about 800w Screwfix cheapy. Even had a label of ratings to compare how well it picks up various types of muck, sound level, the lot.

 

[The Ghost]

I am not British, I am English!

What is the difference?

 

[telectrix]

What is the difference?

are you a closet american. they don't know either.

 

[The Ghost]

they don't know either

Do you?

 

[Electric Magic]

I voted remain. I like multiculturalism. I think the benefits of the European Convention on Human Rights (limits on big brother etc) outweigh the negatives. Also, the ECHR is a separate thing to being a member of the EU despite what the leave campaign misleadingly claimed, saying this is why jihadis can preach in the UK and we can't chuck them out (as if this is the only or even a good solution post the invention of the internet) is crap. Actually there are all sorts of ways we could legislate against jihadis but the main problem is the reluctance to recognise the problem (e.g. not enough people in power do, if that makes sense). I think security wise the world (not just us) is a lot worse off if the EU goes on to implode. Putin would love to divide and conquer and it would certainly make life easier for terrorist organisations too. As for the arguements about keeping Britain Britain (or England England), the modern romantic nationalism so commonly espoused without questioning why we think what we think originated in Germany (a little ironic given that the cornerstones of British nationalism for many, or at least a commonly espoused sentiment is two world wars and one world cup).

 

[stevethesparks]

Out. Long before Brexit ever evolved I wanted out but never believed there would be a vote on it.

 

[littlespark]

Most journalists/ tv reporters don't know the difference between Britain and England either.
Britain includes Scotland and Wales.. England is just England.

Oh, and TV channels? The Scottish kids have been on holiday for 3 weeks already. Don't just start putting on holiday programmes now.

 

[The Ghost]

...and Northern Ireland.

 

[littlespark]

Yes, Vort… and NI...

 

[stuarth]

I voted out and would do so again in a heartbeat.

I'm sure it's not going to be plain sailing, but the way the EU has been conducting itself since has only cemented my view that we will be better off out of it.

Personally as soon as they started their 'negotiation' with demands for cash, I think I would have just walked away and resorted to WTO trade rules. Not ideal, but what's being forgotten is that we, as a member, have a stake in some seriously valuable real estate. Are they going to pay us rent on the portion that our contributions helped build? I don't think so.

Sparkychick has said almost everything I was going to say, why people think its a great idea to have unelected power hungry people make the big decisions on our behalf is beyond me, also the EU has not submitted accounts for all the money we and other hard working people in Europe have paid in to this mad scheme for years, none of us would get away with not doing our accounts every year.
It's time for us to regain some pride in our country just like many others in the EU, its not just a few people in this country that want out its many many others around Europe.

 

[FatAlan]

Too many daily mail readers on here.

 

[Electric Magic]

why people think its a great idea to have unelected power hungry people make the big decisions on our behalf is beyond me dUOTE]

May and many other Prime ministers before her were not directly elected by us. Some of them at in the seat of power without even their party ever winning an election. Unelected "special advisors" whose only relevant experience is going to Eton and "daddy went to school with the minister" inform most key ministerial cabinet member decisions. I'm not even going to bother going into who, in the majority of cases, even gets to stand to be an MP and get from there to the cabinet, how we've only really got two choices in England. It's all rhetoric and unrepresentative b*llsh*t, not just the EU.

 

[westward10]

What is the difference?

I was born and live in England therefore I am English unfortunately very few application forms now permit this race to be used thus we are all tarred with British tag which everyone adopts to live here. Do we hear the Scots or Welsh wanting to be called British, no they use their correct tag.

 

[SteveBz]

Out. But honestly if I'd know that they would have made such a cock-up of it, I'd probably have voted in.

 

[JAWS]

Too many daily mail readers on here.

When I see posts like this it makes me more determined then ever to leave.

 

[KEV 1 N]

Out.

 

[westward10]

Only paper I read is the Racing Post, haven't purchased a so called newspaper for years.

 

[Richard Burns]

...and Northern Ireland.

That is then the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain being England, Scotland and Wales.

I voted out so there would be fewer corrupt politicians operating in our area.

 

[Spoon]

Out.

 

[Wilko]

Out. But honestly if I'd know that they would have made such a cock-up of it, I'd probably have voted in.

That sums me up too. Perhaps it'd been better if we just ignored Brussels when it suits us as several other EU members seem to ...

 

[GBDamo]

I voted remain, thinking any problems that were there could be sorted out without leaving. Really, is brexit going to solve immigration crisis? .

This is another one of my reasons for voting to leave.

Accountability.

For too long on too many issues our politicians have blamed the EU for issues within their remit to resolve, immigration being the main one.

No more can they enact legislation claiming to have their hands tied. Now if they want it they can justify it and put their place in the commons on the line come the next elections.

It’s all about removing their wiggle room and making it easier to hold them responsible.

 

[FatAlan]

..and you think the current crop of MP’s in Westminster aren’t corrupt! Seems to be the only ‘profession’ these days when it’s ok to lie.

 

[GBDamo]

I'm trying to work out what being an electrician, has got to do with being representative of being judgemental of whether we should stay or remain?

As a tradesperson you are at the forefront of the wage squeeze.

For me, not surprisingly, the outcome of this mini poll should be overwhelmingly ‘out’ and it appears to be so.

If it was cheap journalists, civil servants or MPs being imported from Eastern Europe Brexit would have happened decades ago.

 

[GBDamo]

Too many daily mail readers on here.

Read and subscribe to the Guardian.

Which pigeon hole do you want to put me in?

 

[GBDamo]

Brexit has only been a mess because the careerist vested interests refused to accept the result.

For them their whole career path has been demolished, no longer can they churn out pro-EU reports, articles or policies with the expectation of a cushy Brussels job and fat pension.

Brexit put the gravy train on bricks and nicked its wheels. This is why there is so much dehumanising vitriol spewed by the remain establishment at Brexit voters.

Typical of spoilt children, if they can’t have it they’ll smash it. Funnily very similar to the Democrats in the US with Trump.

 

[Risteard]

...and Northern Ireland.

No. Britain is an island. That's why the official title of the UK is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

 

[JK-Electrical]

Too many daily mail readers on here.

Aye ..... and we're all 'far right', 'sexist', 'racist', 'homophobic', 'transphobic', 'Islamophobic', 'anti-Semitic', 'fascists' and 'Nazis'.

 

[GBDamo]

Aye ..... and we're all 'far right', 'sexist', 'racist', 'homophobic', 'transphobic', 'Islamophobic', 'anti-Semitic' 'fascists' and 'Nazis'.

You missed ‘privileged, white male and stale’

 

[SteveBz]

If it was cheap journalists, civil servants or MPs being imported from Eastern Europe Brexit would have happened decades ago.

I don't understand this. Many Europeans agree with Brexit (eg Greeks, Portuguese, Italians). Just not French and Germans. But journalists and civil servants seem to be largely remainers, hence the skewed rhetoric

 

[JK-Electrical]

You missed ‘privileged, white male and stale’

I also missed 'white supremacist' and 'misogynistic'.

 

[SteveBz]

I was on a knife-edge until the day, largely worried about the economic impact of it all. How-ever a chat with my aunt's careers all on zero-hours contracts persuaded me in favour.

If a group of zero-hours, minimum-wage careers were prepared to put up with any economic impact how can I worry about it?

We can clearly do it well, but while we're still arguing about runways and HS2, it's clear we don't have the bottle. We need all of them. Extra runways at Gatwick AND Heathrow AND HS2.

And every trade deal we can garner. The terms of the deal with EU should be irrelevant: it's why we're leaving, after all. We are an island trading nation, we stood up to Napolean and fought two world wars. When world war three kicks off in Europe we'll step in again.

Meanwhile we are an amazing and creative island nation that doesn't know it's own powers. We box above our weight in nearly every category.

Ships are safest in harbour, but that is not what they were built for.

Same with Brits.

 

[SparkyChick]

Aye ..... and we're all 'far right', 'sexist', 'racist', 'homophobic', 'transphobic', 'Islamophobic', 'anti-Semitic' 'fascists' and 'Nazis'.

If wanting our country to have pride in itself again and be proud of the global contributions we've made over the course of history (and continue to make) instead of being a whiney, self-loathing lefty sheep that's been brainwashed into believing all ill's in the world are our fault means I'll be labelled any or all of those things... bring on the labels!

They are the tools of the leftist, designed to silence those they disagree with because it's easier to silence someone by claiming what they are saying is hate speech than it is to formulate a coherent counter argument to much of what is actually being said.

 

[JK-Electrical]

If wanting our country to have pride in itself again and be proud of the global contributions we've made over the course of history (and continue to make) instead of being a whiney, self-loathing lefty sheep that's been brainwashed into believing all ill's in the world are our fault means I'll be labelled any or all of those things... bring on the labels!

They are the tools of the leftist, designed to silence those they disagree with because it's easier to silence someone by claiming what they are saying is hate speech than it is to formulate a coherent counter argument to much of what is actually being said.

Well said SC. My sentiments exactly.

I'm not sure that you would want the label of 'white privileged male' though.

 

[Cadgey123]

I was born and live in England therefore I am English unfortunately very few application forms now permit this race to be used thus we are all tarred with British tag which everyone adopts to live here. Do we hear the Scots or Welsh wanting to be called British, no they use their correct tag.

I was born in Scotland, I have a Scottish accent and live in England. As much as we are brought up to “hate” the English, I am a proud Britiah citizen. I love GB and since travelling to many different countries I have learned to appreciate how Great our little island is actually!
I also supported England in the World Cup which would I wouldn’t admit to most of my family.
Let’s all be proud together

 

[SparkyChick]

Well said SC. My sentiments exactly.

I'm not sure that you would want the label of 'white privileged male' though.

Maybe not, but my anti-feminist stance does suggest I have internalised misoginy so I might as well be a straight white male

 

[JK-Electrical]

I also supported England in the World Cup which would I wouldn’t admit to most of my family.

Traitor.