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Old rewirable fuse Wylex with no current rcd,customer will not pay for cu upgrade as he has been told an rcd from meter tails to cu is all he needs,is this correct?If so what size is required,(holding up kitchen fit) Could anyone please advise.He has fell out with his own spark but takes what he has said as gospel. :confused::confused::confused:
 
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poheZ

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well are you going to issue a certificate?
 
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mouldy3

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Old rewirable fuse Wylex with no current rcd,customer will not pay for cu upgrade as he has been told an rcd from meter tails to cu is all he needs,is this correct?If so what size is required,(holding up kitchen fit) Could anyone please advise.He has fell out with his own spark but takes what he has said as gospel. :confused::confused::confused:
If your gonna do it that way then i think you should put a 30mA RCD to cover the whole installation, only problem then is you can't reduce the possibility of unwanted tripping which you should note down on the test sheet. Just explain to your customer that if there is a fault on the sockets and the RCD trips then he'll lose lights and everything. Then it's up to them?!?
 
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Hi Mate,

Would it not be best to put in henley block to split tails, have 1 set of tails running from this to existing CU, then another set of tails from henley blockto a small dedicated shower RCD unit - that way you are complying with 17th in that 1 RCD will not trip off the whole installation in the event of a fault, and also you will then only be responsible for inspecting/testing/certificating the 1 new circuit (shower) you have installed?
Thats wayI tackle similar if customer doesn't want a new CU/ full PIR of installation.

Sorry, have I got the wrong end of the stick in my last reply?
Are you wanting to RCD protect a new circuit you have installed/ a circuit you have altered, without changing the consumer unit?
 
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MEGGER?

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There is to be an alteration to existing ring in kitchen only.
 
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Why do you think he has fallen out with his other electrician, maybe because he thinks he knows best?

Its likely that the he wasn't prepared to do (or spend) what the other electrician has proposed to comply with the regs?

I would tell him what needs to be done as a qualified electrician, including any pre-testing work, redimials and he could take it or leave it. Simple as that - your the electrician!

Putting an RCD before the old CU would not comply with the 17th Edition anyway, there would be no seperation of the protection for the circuits i.e. lights up, sockets down, lights down, sockets up etc.
 

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Why do you think he has fallen out with his other electrician, maybe because he thinks he knows best?

Its likely that the he wasn't prepared to do (or spend) what the other electrician has proposed to comply with the regs?

I would tell him what needs to be done as a qualified electrician, including any pre-testing work, redimials and he could take it or leave it. Simple as that - your the electrician!

Putting an RCD before the old CU would not comply with the 17th Edition anyway, there would be no seperation of the protection for the circuits i.e. lights up, sockets down, lights down, sockets up etc.
Well said that man!
 

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Why do you think he has fallen out with his other electrician, maybe because he thinks he knows best?

Its likely that the he wasn't prepared to do (or spend) what the other electrician has proposed to comply with the regs?

I would tell him what needs to be done as a qualified electrician, including any pre-testing work, redimials and he could take it or leave it. Simple as that - your the electrician!

Putting an RCD before the old CU would not comply with the 17th Edition anyway, there would be no seperation of the protection for the circuits i.e. lights up, sockets down, lights down, sockets up etc.

As you said other electrician has told him what he requires to be compliant with the regs but the tight fisted wad won't pay for it.

Personally I would walk away unless he is willing to pay for the correct work to be done as with it being a kitchen ot is notifiable under the dreaded PART P so LABC would not give a cert for it anyway if it's not correct.
 
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