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I'd take the deaths count with a massive pinch of salt... I read that it's based on the death certificate merely mentioning Coronavirus, not that they died because of it. Also, what about the ones that die because of it, but they don't know they had it ?We have hit nearly 30K deaths, its serious.
I wont insult the intelligence of people on here I am sure it is a plain enough quote detailing the dangers of the powers the government have just handed themselves. This could be come a socialist utopia in a few weeks!You’ll have to précis that for us @Vortigern
As I mentioned earlier, there are two guidance documents on gov.uk currently, one says essential repairs and maintainenece only in people's homes, the other clearly allows all work in people's homes.
There are two guidance documents currently published on the gov.uk website which contradict each other.
I doubt the police could actually do anything at all if they didn't have a letter with them, apart from maybe a condescending talk.
In actual fact there is a case ongoing in Dublin at present about this. The Constitution very clearly defines an "emergency" as war or armed rebellion, and therefore the description of the COVID-19 situation as an emergency to justify emergency powers is - it is contested - unconstitutional.The cry of emergency is an intoxicating one, producing an exhilarating freedom from the need to consider the rights of others and productive of the desire to repeat it again and again (Dellway Investments and Others v. NAMA and Others [2011] 4 I.R. 1 at 289).
In actual fact there is a case ongoing in Dublin at present about this. The Constitution very clearly defines an "emergency" as war or armed rebellion, and therefore the description of the COVID-19 situation as an emergency to justify emergency powers is - it is contested - unconstitutional.
Has Sweden seen significantly higher deaths ? They are about 14% the size of us, so to be on a par... 14% of 28,000 deaths that we've had is 4,000... but they've had 2,800 ?? (Quick 2 min calc based on minimal level of searching... someone correct me if I'm wrong)Draconian measures? The deaths would be well above what they are now if there had been no lockdown!
I believe it's utterly essential.That's a great use of time and money during an international pandemic!
Yes draconian measures, as I say while we agree such measures may be necessary do not for a moment think these powers are desirable or wanted on any terms longer than the duration of the emergency. They cannot even be justified under cover of "saving lives" Personally I have no knowledge of any record of the government wanting to save lives and being benevolent. Just because it saves lives don't take your eye off the ball and fall to sleep on this one! The extent of these powers along with the ramifications of other acts such as the Mental Health Act and a raft of others is somewhat alarming this is not just an act to contain. For instanceDraconian measures?
OR youtube crazy people.So you think there is an ulterior motive here, and the government has been using Corona to implement more severe mental health act powers? Really? Have you been on Facebook again?
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