Working live

Andy-1960 · Apr 28, 2017

Andy-1960 said:
FYI, fitting an MCB into a DB is classed as working live, an electrician friend of mine got seriously hurt doing just this, all down to a faulty breaker which blew up in his face as he fitted it.
The HSE got involved and said there was no reason why the board should not have been switched off to carry out the work. His company got fined and he has the scars on his face and hands.
As with all accidents, its the unexpected that gets you..

Why do I get a dumb rating for this???? Please remove

polo1 · Apr 29, 2017

Andy-1960 said:
Why do I get a dumb rating for this???? Please remove

Eeeek, sorry mate, I was trying to agree with you. Fat finger syndrome on an iPhone. Should now be changed!!!!!

Rpa07 · Apr 29, 2017

How fat are your fingers @polo1? There's 2" between like and the other! It's certainly fiddly on an I phone, sometimes it takes 5 goes to get it right!
Is that how you spell 'goes'? You judge but careful to not press the dumb button! sausage fingers!

telectrix · Apr 29, 2017

i always work live. can't see me doing the job if i'm bloody well dead.

Deleted member 26818 · Apr 29, 2017

Are zombies entitled to a living wage?

polo1 · Apr 29, 2017

Rpa07 said:
How fat are your fingers @polo1? There's 2" between like and the other! It's certainly fiddly on an I phone, sometimes it takes 5 goes to get it right!
Is that how you spell 'goes'? You judge but careful to not press the dumb button! sausage fingers!

Lol! Have to say I'm still struggling with parts of the "new" site - must be getting to the age where adapting to change is getting more difficult.
PS why are my emojis not appearing in posts?????

Specialist · Apr 29, 2017

Have that problem sometimes as well when using Android tablet. If you press space bar after typing, then pick an emoji it usually comes up.

telectrix · Apr 29, 2017

spinlondon said:
Are zombies entitled to a living wage?

only if they work in a dying trade.

rhitey · May 2, 2017

Andy-1960 said:
No.. one with a longer handle!!!

Hey hey come on now who said anything about a hammer?
Just thumped it with me hand
Hammer would've been next if that hadn't worked :-D

Jim Gyure · May 4, 2017

I had one bad experience with a co-worker while working live on a job. Since then I've worked odd hours on jobs where they wanted me to work live just to avoid it when possible. I typically will only work live if I'm working alone and no one else can complicate the process.

Pete999 · May 4, 2017

Jim Gyure said:
I had one bad experience with a co-worker while working live on a job. Since then I've worked odd hours on jobs where they wanted me to work live just to avoid it when possible. I typically will only work live if I'm working alone and no one else can complicate the process.

And if you got a belt that wasn't fatal what next if you are alone?

David M · May 4, 2017

Pete999 said:
And if you got a belt that wasn't fatal what next if you are alone?

Me dad gave me a belt once, I couldn't sit down for a few days. Mind you thinking back I did deserve it

Pete999 · May 4, 2017

I used to get the slipper at school think it was a size 11 it was DC (direct contact) as well

gazdkw82 · May 5, 2017

I'm very new to electrical work in the grand scheme of things and iv experienced 1 close encounter fitting a shower pull cord and a multimeter (some of you may have read that post)

It's fair to say that even that fairly large (for my experience) bang and spark scares me and really touched home the reality of electricity. I wouldn't work live unless I felt 100% confident and the right tools/protection. I'm not scared of electricity but I damn well respect it and don't for one Minute think I'm immune to a fatal shock.

You can be as hard as nails with balls of steel until it catches you the wrong way.

ackbarthestar · May 9, 2017

This goes beyond client contractor having a poke at each other.
There are certain conditions where live working is acceptable but there are very rigorous rules to be observed.
Documentation, RAs, Flash gear, marigolds, 11kV rubber mats
You will find them in the EAWRs 1989 and ESQCR 2002
My advice is to get the HSE to order a stop notice on the contracted work (by not stopping), the client will pass the notice onto Environmental Health dept.
At this point you step back and crack open the pop corn

This is what happens when you don't plan ahead

Pat H · May 9, 2017

Notice his safety hat wasn't strapped on and fell off. Notice the chaos of the working environment. An accident waiting to happen.

D00DY_T00DY · May 13, 2017

rhitey said:
Hey hey come on now who said anything about a hammer?
Just thumped it with me hand
Hammer would've been next if that hadn't worked :-D

Ah that's where you went wrong. Hammer with insulation tape.

Got to be VDE.

Specialist · May 13, 2017

Dood, his hammer is VDE buddy: Very Destructive Equipment

D00DY_T00DY · May 13, 2017

Specialist said:
Dood, his hammer is VDE buddy: Very Destructive Equipment

Every knows thumb detectors are only used for "gentle persuasion"

Bigger thumb detectors for more persuasion.

Specialist · May 13, 2017

Yes isn't it a strange phenomenon, the bigger the hammer the more you hit your thumb

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Felt sorry for my mate yesterday, thumb just back to normal & no black nail so he's landed. He'd only been showing us 5 minutes before how well it had healed, then the idiot picks up a 16oz ball hammer to whack out a bearing & hits the same thumb.

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D00DY_T00DY · May 13, 2017

Specialist said:
Yes isn't it a strange phenomenon, the bigger the hammer the more you hit your thumb .

Felt sorry for my mate yesterday, thumb just back to normal & no black nail so he's landed. He'd only been showing us 5 minutes before how well it had healed, then the idiot picks up a 16oz ball hammer to whack out a bearing & hits the same thumb.
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Ouch.
Buy the man some long handled pliers

Specialist · May 13, 2017

D00DY_T00DY said:
Ouch.
Buy the man some long handled pliers

Like the thinking, but knowing my mate he'd still miss & hit his thumb

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He's a good boy, but can be seriously accident prone or putz like

D00DY_T00DY · May 13, 2017

Specialist said:
Like the thinking, but knowing my mate he'd still miss & hit his thumb .
He's a good boy, but can be seriously accident prone or putz like

Or hit the pliers and they fly up.

Images of the tv show "bottom" spring to mind.

Bet you all gather round when he's got a hammer in his hand

Specialist · May 13, 2017

No word of a lie mate, he was trying to get a stuck wheel off my 4x4 a couple of years back.
Tried booting it with his steelies & no effect, so he decides to get a whacking great mallet and give the wheel some abuse.

First hit with the mallet & it rebounds, whacked him straight between the legs. Poor bugger went down like a sack of spuds, there's me standing there mouth open in shock & his missus on her knees laughing like a fool.
That one put him in hospital for 48 hours.