Yeah, but they look naff.
Nicer would be a range of grid plates, which wouldn't look like they are an addition, just a subtly larger plate which could be used with any grid accessories.
Never mind, wrong thread anyway ?
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Yes, roofers repairing the roof started the fire when sparks from their grinders showered down on to fabrics inside the building. It was a major incident. 15 fire engines, road closure, railway line closure etc.
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I remember them doing for a 4core 35mm with nail gun when they were changing some clear roof panels. Nothing like yours... but it could have been if they'd have done it above the paint mix area.
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Took some bedsheets up with 'em for parachutes?
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Reason I asked is that I attended a similar situation a few years back.
The destruction was devastating, all caused by heat escaping from a kiln that caused a flat wooden roof to combust. I spent quite a bit of time with the fire investigator to determine if an electrical fault had been initially to blame. It turned out to be a combination of mechanical and operator error, creating a very unusual situation, which in hindsight, could have been avoided but was not pre-empted in the safe working assessment or RAMS.
It was quite interesting being part of the investigation team.
This started with "my extractor wont' turn off" and ended with removing the 13A fuse pending next visit.
Oh, and the extractor:
Oh, and the extractor:
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last pic. looks same as my lady's last attempt at a souffle.
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There was a fire near me a few weeks ago at a general engineers. Gutted the rather ancient building they occupy.
As far as cause… I had heard from sources… so take with a pinch of salt… that they had a bonfire going and whoever was told to put it out with water…. Picked up paint thinners instead.
Would have had to be a serious H&S breach there keeping chemicals in unmarked containers, and not secure… but more likely the fire was just too close to old dry wood and the old building.
As far as cause… I had heard from sources… so take with a pinch of salt… that they had a bonfire going and whoever was told to put it out with water…. Picked up paint thinners instead.
Would have had to be a serious H&S breach there keeping chemicals in unmarked containers, and not secure… but more likely the fire was just too close to old dry wood and the old building.
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going back tomy earlier days, we once was burning rubbish behing the store ( Rumbelows). wind blew sparks etc. into outhouse which had polystyrene packing in it. caught light. progressed to old dry timbers, whole shop damaged. end of story, the whole shop was renovated bythe insurers cost about £40k. only a month previous owners had received a quote for £15k to replace woodworm damaged timbers which ended up paid for on the fire insurance. (and i never got even a thanks).
As a side story to the "the building burned down" stories ...
Some time ago a friend of mine was an architect and involved with a major retailer. My friend queried why they weren't fitting sprinklers in the new store she was involved with, to be told that they cost too much in stock damage every time someone knocked a head and let the water out.
Roll forward a relatively short time ... In the space of a couple of months, they had two stores catch fire. Neither had sprinklers, and by the time the fire was put out, there was nothing left but a pile of mangled steelwork that had just collapsed once it got hot enough to lose it's strength.
Cue project to retrofit sprinklers in their other stores ?
Some time ago a friend of mine was an architect and involved with a major retailer. My friend queried why they weren't fitting sprinklers in the new store she was involved with, to be told that they cost too much in stock damage every time someone knocked a head and let the water out.
Roll forward a relatively short time ... In the space of a couple of months, they had two stores catch fire. Neither had sprinklers, and by the time the fire was put out, there was nothing left but a pile of mangled steelwork that had just collapsed once it got hot enough to lose it's strength.
Cue project to retrofit sprinklers in their other stores ?
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Still don't know where the 500 smackers in your back pocket came from, then?
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Gives me an excuse to repost one of these photos:
my father in laws caravan site, which he sold in 2016 and I’d spent a decade working on.
The cause, again through local gossip-mongers, was an electric heater left on overnight.
my father in laws caravan site, which he sold in 2016 and I’d spent a decade working on.
The cause, again through local gossip-mongers, was an electric heater left on overnight.
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GBDamo
That's a really big caravan, what do you tow it with?
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Taken from another group:
I almost had a heart attack when I saw this…
So.. turns out heat and plastic doesn’t mix well.
I almost had a heart attack when I saw this…
So.. turns out heat and plastic doesn’t mix well.
I would have thought sprinklers were perfect for what they do
Is this a problem the heads being knocked ?
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I know a couple of companies that have sprinklers decommissioned because the insurance was cheaper without them.
stock loss cost and likelihood calculations for accidental activation outweighed the total loss cost vs. the likelihood for a real fire.
I haven't seen too many fires ,mainly at main boards and metering locations
As a poster alluded to previously , there's usually plenty to worry about in a fire situation than the cabling
As a poster alluded to previously , there's usually plenty to worry about in a fire situation than the cabling
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Water mist fire suppression is better than water drench :
The rise of Water mist Fire Suppression Systems. - https://www.firesafetyevent.com/news/the-rise-of-water-mist-fire-suppression-systems
The rise of Water mist Fire Suppression Systems. - https://www.firesafetyevent.com/news/the-rise-of-water-mist-fire-suppression-systems
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I very nearly hit the report button for that.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
They are - simple, reliable, effective, and relatively low cost.
The problem is in the stock rooms. All it takes is one careless forklift manouver and you've popped a sprinkler - then water gushes out and all the stock in tne vicinity is damaged. And for good measure, when tbe water flows the fire alarm goes off and you have a load of "annoyed" customers who have to be kicked out.
Surely in those sorts of areas the heads would be installed on the top of the pipe rather than underneath? In ceilings, recessed heads can be fitted that sit flush with the ceiling to prevent damage. These are good for domestic use as well as they are discreet. Sprinkler systems are great. I've been to 3 places that have had fires and sprinklers. In all 3 cases the sprinklers extinguished the fire before it spread beyond the room the fire started.
Ah, but now you are into the realms of "workmanship vs speed/cost". Just like we see much ekectrical work done down to a price, same thing with sprinklers.
And while I don't know what they are, there are rules about how sprinklers must be installed. I recall that our warehouse guys had just finished putting solid shelves on the racking when they were told that it either had to be open (slatted) or they'd have to add sprinklers on each level - they bought in a load of slatted shelves and had a big pile of surplus ply.
And while I don't know what they are, there are rules about how sprinklers must be installed. I recall that our warehouse guys had just finished putting solid shelves on the racking when they were told that it either had to be open (slatted) or they'd have to add sprinklers on each level - they bought in a load of slatted shelves and had a big pile of surplus ply.
I've never seen a fuseboard that actually had fuses in the spare fuse clips. Looks like it was installed in the garden!
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shame i binned it. took one of them out the other week, pristine condition. you could have had it for £100. it had "failed" EICR through no RCD.
Found these in one of my old folders, I may of posted them before, but no harm showing them again.
Got called by care in the community person to assess if a property was electrically safe for someone to return too, only had to do a visual, this is how I found it......
Got called by care in the community person to assess if a property was electrically safe for someone to return too, only had to do a visual, this is how I found it......
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4th picture. Is that a calculator with retro red lcd display?
What happened to all this? Did you have to report much? Did someone move back into that?
What happened to all this? Did you have to report much? Did someone move back into that?
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Intrigued to know what the micro-ammeter is for. Suspect some of this is made up?
The décor and red wires in the photo's from @Doomed remind me of a house in Coventry that I'll never forget. I ended up learning a lot about the former occupant as I got to know the family quite well. The guy was a retired RAF engineer, and former safety officer at Alvis and Dunlop works. He'd seen service overseas and been torpedoed/shipwrecked twice. He had a good innings and died aged 91.
He'd apparently (genuinely) been given a Wylex rewireable CU as a birthday present a few years previously but that was where anything standard ended. The house was entirely wired in 6mm red singles because according to his daughter he refused to spend a penny unless required and someone had donated several drums of it to him. (N and Earth were red throughout too). At every fitting there were solder and heat shrink connections to smaller conductors.
In addition there were some incredible inventions throughout the house including a remarkably engineered home made stair lift, curtains that opened and closed on a time clock, and even a crane to lower him into the bath. There were massive anchorages on the walls of the living room with ropes so he could pull himself around. The scene in Home Alone looked quite pathetic compared to his house!
In the back garden was a self-built winch for towing in his caravan powered by a three phase motor. This caused some confusion as the house has a single phase supply. Further investigation revealed a conductor running (apparently by agreement) to next doors shed. There was no 3rd phase connected but I did find a long lead that I think he used to hook it up as required so I reckon he had a deal with another neighbour.
I can only find two photo's from this and neither show the electrics, one was inside his workshop and I also noticed a rather incredible old magazine article which was apparently a Morris or Dunlop works magazine detailing how he had added an extra gearbox into a car to provide more ratios for towing his caravan. This intrigued me so much the daughter kindly later sent me a copy of it.
The guy was clearly an amazing mechanical engineer and obviously knew exactly how it all worked. I bet the occupant of the house in the other photos is a similarly interesting character.
He'd apparently (genuinely) been given a Wylex rewireable CU as a birthday present a few years previously but that was where anything standard ended. The house was entirely wired in 6mm red singles because according to his daughter he refused to spend a penny unless required and someone had donated several drums of it to him. (N and Earth were red throughout too). At every fitting there were solder and heat shrink connections to smaller conductors.
In addition there were some incredible inventions throughout the house including a remarkably engineered home made stair lift, curtains that opened and closed on a time clock, and even a crane to lower him into the bath. There were massive anchorages on the walls of the living room with ropes so he could pull himself around. The scene in Home Alone looked quite pathetic compared to his house!
In the back garden was a self-built winch for towing in his caravan powered by a three phase motor. This caused some confusion as the house has a single phase supply. Further investigation revealed a conductor running (apparently by agreement) to next doors shed. There was no 3rd phase connected but I did find a long lead that I think he used to hook it up as required so I reckon he had a deal with another neighbour.
I can only find two photo's from this and neither show the electrics, one was inside his workshop and I also noticed a rather incredible old magazine article which was apparently a Morris or Dunlop works magazine detailing how he had added an extra gearbox into a car to provide more ratios for towing his caravan. This intrigued me so much the daughter kindly later sent me a copy of it.
The guy was clearly an amazing mechanical engineer and obviously knew exactly how it all worked. I bet the occupant of the house in the other photos is a similarly interesting character.
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