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DPG · Mar 7, 2023

Dave OCD said:
Beaten to it quicker than a tripping RCD.

Ooh I like that phrase. I'll remember that one.
Come to think of it my Mrs mentioned something similar when we were in bed the other night.....

Dave OCD · Mar 7, 2023

Yeah the tw@t lol. Fastest finger first.

Dave OCD · Mar 7, 2023

'If my dog had a face like yours I'd shave its @rse and teach it to walk backwards'.

DPG · Mar 7, 2023

This is going to go downhill rapidly I feel.

DPG · Mar 7, 2023

Dave OCD said:
Yeah the tw@t lol. Fastest finger first.

She said that as well

Dave OCD · Mar 7, 2023

You're on top form tonight !

PS Any Man U fans about on here ?? I've more or less finished winding up all the ones I know.

DPG · Mar 7, 2023

Dave OCD said:
You're on top form tonight !

No, she never said that unfortunately

Raptor0014 · Mar 8, 2023

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

DPG · Mar 8, 2023

Raptor0014 said:
10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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To be fair, if the terminations had been secure and tight then that combination would probably have lasted years.

mainline · Mar 8, 2023

Looks like another case of bad joint /cheap isolator.

Taylortwocities · Mar 8, 2023

mainline said:
Notching the joints was the plumbers way, and I think electricians back then followed suit, and probably still do to a certain degree, as sometimes needs must.

Brings back memories though of live nails poking out the floor, or the missus shouting up the stairs that there's water dripping from the ceiling.

If that wiring was staying, I would notch some nail plates into the floor board, better than having to junction box the cables just to divert them through some joist weakening holes.

I still have a load of "SafePlates" in a box somewhere....

Dave OCD · Mar 8, 2023

Raptor0014 said:
10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

Taylortwocities · Mar 8, 2023

Dave OCD said:
It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

And, yet again, its the neutral connection that failed. Funny that.

littlespark · Mar 8, 2023

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

mainline · Mar 8, 2023

littlespark said:
I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

I never had a problem with 50 amp Crabtree pull cords, double terminal screws helps.

nicebutdim · Mar 8, 2023

littlespark said:
I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Some charge points have very low torque setting for supply cable - astoundingly low and I tend to spend a bit of time getting stranded conductors bedded in before torquing.

Dave OCD · Mar 8, 2023

littlespark said:
I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Should have tightened that neutral another half turn.

Mike Johnson · Mar 8, 2023

Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

nicebutdim · Mar 8, 2023

Mike Johnson said:
Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

Assuming terminal screws are made from something more substantial than the cheese certain manufacturers consider acceptable for this purpose.

Mike Johnson · Mar 8, 2023

For the last ten years I have only used Hagar and they seem to last well, although I do like a bit of Roqefort with my port.

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