10mm to incoming water supply

[p11jor]

If there is concrete floor and the first sight of the rising main is behind the kitchen sink the other side of the house how does everyone get around puting in there earth cable? Are we restricted to zones running cable the cable, can it go outside instead of replastering and put it in a mechanical protection around the side of the house? Is this the first point you would bond it behind the sink if it's concrete floor? I have not got alot of experience behind me and would like the knowledge......also concrete floors how would we know if they had Alkathene plastic supply oppose to lead?

 

[p11jor]

Seems a few people are stuck on this one according to other forums to

 

[Octopus]

Where is the CU? The incoming supply?

Sounds to me like you need to run the bond around the outside of the house.

 

[truckster]

If it's the only route you got, around the house it must go. I've done it a couple of times when decor/laminate floors or other routes have been blocked. Bit of a b*gg*r if it's a mid terrace tho

 

[p11jor]

Great! Luckily it's a end terrace! The cu is at the front right of the house the kitchen is back left!! So would you guys protect in in conduit or anything? Bit of a rough area so couple of scallys may take a shine to this cable and have a feeling they could end up without a earth to the water if it's left exposed? What would be sufficient?

 

[truckster]

Depends on what you got to work with, the ones I have done both had a couple of courses of bricks with render over so I could get some black 20mm plastic conduit round and it was fairly well hidden.

 

[nikmet]

definately enclosed in metal conduit, ive had to replace loads over the past year that have been cut at both ends and ripped out for scrap. Never used to be an issue in past but the temptations too much for the scum these days.

 

[p11jor]

It's getting worse isn't it, one of our houses went on fire after getting broken into like 3 times, went round after fire to assess.....whole heating system and rads ripped out......went back round again with the loss adjuster and the cable had been ripped out for scraps!

 

[truckster]

Jesus! Where do you people live?? Devon is so lovely and I can see the sea from my house as I skip to my van, smiling at the thought of a brand new day....

 

[p11jor]

Liverpool.....good job I have ex Brit gas van with auto lock after 10 seconds, business partner has habit of not locking his and gear has gone walkies before!

 

[Des 56]

Jesus! Where do you people live?? Devon is so lovely and I can see the sea from my house as I skip to my van, smiling at the thought of a brand new day....

lol

That sounds more like a scene from the sound of music than the others experiences, rumbling along half asleep to go to work and finding their wheels gone, whilst in deepest Devon the hills ring out

 

[nickblake]

Jesus! Where do you people live?? Devon is so lovely and I can see the sea from my house as I skip to my van, smiling at the thought of a brand new day....

now that sounds like where i live sitting in my van over looking miles of sandy beach what more could you ask for ...what was the question again

 

[Doomed]

Oh the joys of living by the sea
Yes, go down the outside of the house in metal conduit due to location (possible wrapped in razor wire as well).

 

[ash_s3]

What about straight up the wall in conduit, through loft and down other side in conduit? Maybe behind/close to drain pipe to hide it a little?

 

[p11jor]

How about plastic?.....and possibly a sensor that fires misiles if a vandal goes within a metre of it!!

 

[p11jor]

Ash_s3 it's a difficult house.....the kitchen is in the extension that is single storey at the back and the ceiling has been lowered level with the top of the window which this sink is under.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

There's a new 'wireless' main earth bonding just out in the latest amendment, you just need a wireless router and some 10mm cable.... sorry not helpful !

I was going to suggest up and through loft but beat to it. Cellar? Airbricks?

i think if there is a risk of it being nicked then the steel conduit is the only way

 

[p11jor]

Lol,
for a second there......!!

On this latest amendment when do we need our green books by?

 

[Des 56]

There's a new 'wireless' main earth bonding just out in the latest amendment, you just need a wireless router and some 10mm cable.... sorry not helpful !

I was going to suggest up and through loft but beat to it. Cellar? Airbricks?

i think if there is a risk of it being nicked then the steel conduit is the only way

Nick, you must be another who lives in an area where the metal extraction competence is in its infancy
The metal conduit would be a very temporary structure in most areas nowadays never mind the copper cable inside it

 

[p11jor]

Plastic it is then!

 

[i=p/u]

cuta 50mm trasck right through middle of house, be easy to mske good with a bit of work, least then it wont get swiped, plastic has a price too, think 200 a ton

 

[sparky3366]

plastic at high level...run a single core live through as well

 

[i=p/u]

wireless sounded great story for split sec

 

[p11jor]

These days with everyone out of work, fuel prices, cut backs etc....I think replacing a 10mm earth would kill some people paying for it......maybe safer leaving it out!!!!....put that in the amendments

 

[londonlec]

I dont understand how these gypos make their money, I had a huge industrial 6'' valve, and was offered £4 for it! (30kgs).
How can they make any money driving around all day like meercats burning fuel?

TBH I've worked all across London all my life and have never heard of anyone pinching some 10mm green and yellow!

 

[i=p/u]

Watched tv other night and showing the railways in england all getting saboraged, loads of it think 70mm swa

 

[p11jor]

They tarmac your drive and go down like 2mm, f&£k off then it cracks a week later! £2,000 down the pan!......10mm g&y would be a prime target here.....we had a break in at a empty house.....took the washing machine and fridge.....then come back following night for the spoons....4 spoons in total!!

 

[Timbo_1975]

I've had acouple of these scenario's - best / easiest method was out through the wall (in my case with 2 x 10mm), into 20mm black conduit, with one tee down to an earth rod, and the other leg carried on at low level horizontally to the kitchen, in through the wall to behind the sink.

 

[p11jor]

There crazy some people arnt they! Not even bothed about getting a belt or anything, after the fire they ripped the pipefish out straight from the gas and water, flooded the place and left the gas blowing into the house! Good job next door could smell gas otherwise we would of had more than one burnt out house in this street