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  1. P

    Plastic trunking over a door way

    The use of fire-resistant clips to avoid premature collapse of cables is obviously a good thing, but what about when the cables are in plastic (PVC-U) trunking that offers metal clips for this reason. The reason for asking is I am looking at some options just now (Marshall-Tufflex Mono Plus 20)...
  2. W

    hmo fire detection

    In a building that is in the process of being converted into an hmo (11 flats) does the fire detection system need to be interconnected through each flat or just the common areas with standard smoke detectors in each flat
  3. Vortigern

    What fire alarm system do you recommend

    Just wonder if there are any recommendations for a fire alarm system. A simple system conventional. It is a building (mosque) quite small as it goes around 100 sq m. 10 smokes one heat for kitchen. Three break glass, two sounders. So quite a small system. I have arranged the wiring for sounders...
  4. T

    Linian fire clips

    Evening all Has anyone has experience in using Linian clips? Im pricing a block of flats that has an MF ceiling with not much space above, i was going to use Linian super,T&E & fire clips for the various cabling Just wondering if anyone knows how many cables roughly you can fit in the smaller...
  5. W

    Fire sealing an external hole?

    Hi, I'm drilling through the kitchen wall into the wooden leantoo. I'm using 20mm conduit through the hole, with a conduit box one side and a wiska box the other. Do I have to use any fire sealing? Whether inside the conduit or around it as it exits the brickwork? I found a link that said...
  6. N

    Fire alarm randomly went off

    Hi all, my fire alarm randomly went off for about 15 seconds last night, fastest I've shot out of bed for a while and my back feels it today 😂. No sign of smoke, new batteries about a month ago and its also wired. Pushed the test button today and all working fine. Now I'm worried incase it goes...
  7. R

    2780kw ovens

    My cooker was wired to a 13a socket in the space behind the oven in a Persimmon new build, wooden construction. Some idiot cut the insulation back and reduced the strands in order to connect it, The fuse heated up. The 15 amp cable arced away but the fuse is still intact. Surely this is not to...
  8. J

    (DIY) Help with connected fire alarms

    Morning all :) I hope this question isn't too basic...I think I'm sure but thought it would be wise to check. I've fitted a couple of fire alarms that are wired, one at the top of the stairs one at the bottom. First one I fit was downstairs, all was fine. When I fitted the upstairs one the...
  9. littlespark

    Fire in domestic kitchen

    Popped up to see a neighbour last night to look at, and disconnect their old cooker hood. Something on the hob caught fire, and the hood simply sucked the flames up into the extraction duct. Fire brigade, etc etc My question is, has the the hood been improperly fitted? 12 year old house. Hood...
  10. A

    Mag4 Fire panel question

    Hi, sorry didn’t know where to put this thread. Mag4 panel going into fault for around 10 seconds intermittently then automatically goes back to normal, could go off 10 times a day or once. Any ideas please?!
  11. S

    Protec Fire alarm

    I have some protec fire alarm items for sale if anyone has use or need for them. 3 manual call points 4 sounder bases 3 optical smoke detectors Thanks
  12. A

    Fire alarm qualification

    Hi guys, I am a fully qualified electrician nvq 3 gold card blah blah boring. I was looking at doing the tavcom practical fire alarm installation btec level 3 qual. Its very in depth etc but a bit expensive. Do any of you reccomend a particular course that's recognised? I just like the fact...
  13. J

    Hager Consumer Unit - Fire retardant grommets?

    When working on Wylex consumer units I always opted to use semi-blind fire retardant grommets. (British General Fire Retardant Semi-Blind Grommets 13 Pcs - https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-general-fire-retardant-semi-blind-grommets-13-pcs/9638p) These ensure that any internal fire is starved...
  14. P

    The apollo advanced mx pro panel is showing an error that a smoke detector is faulty but it seems to be blinking properly.

    The detector is working properly. We have checked it physically. But the pannel is showing fault in that detector. Please give me a solution
  15. captaincaveman

    UK Re-energising after fire

    Hi guys and gals, I've been asked by a landlord to go to a property to check the electrics which were de-energised by the fire brigade after a smallish fire was started by candles. I've been told there is no obvious damage to the electrical installation but the fire brigade state "Gas and...
  16. D

    Residential Fire alarm installation west London

    I need a fire alarm installing in a house that was converted into flats 30 years ago. It comprises 3 units. Ground floor and basement maisonette, 1st floor flat, 2nd floor flat. There is a communal entrance hall and internal staircase serving the front doors of each unit. The fire risk...
  17. T

    Fire system installation training

    Hi all, I'm looking for some help with regards to Fire system installation training. I'm currently working with a friend of mine installing addressable fire systems. I come from a mostly house bashing background but looking to add more strings to my bow. Basically I'm looking for any suggestions...
  18. bigspark17

    Homeywell notifier fire alarm

    Wanting to do more fire alarm testing and a communal centre where i work have asked me to test there system. Problem it is a honeywell notifire who are closed protocol which could be a problem im guessing if anything untoward sprang up on the test i will have trouble with any reprogramming of...
  19. W

    Domestic fire alarm issue

    Hi all I have a small problem with a job im doing, 2 first floor flats above a shop with separate landlords area for the 2x flats which is a small stairwell out to a door on the street I have first fixed both flats, they will be each on their own single phase supply from the communal landlords...
  20. H

    Fire alarm installer not providing full commissioning documentation

    Our management company comprising five flats, of which I am the Secretary, had an electrician install a fire alarm system last October to satisfy the local authority. It was a wireless system and comprised various smoke detectors, sounders, break glass units etc. He was paid in full. Our...
  21. LewisM

    Fire sealant for back of distribution board?

    Anybody recommend a good intumescent sealant that can be applied directly to PVC cables?
  22. A

    No CPC in lighting circuits / Fire damage

    Good evening following a visual inspection in a property that had an electrical fire in the fuse board area obviously i could not actually test anything, but visually identified that the lighting circuits had no earth (not even cut back) now the insurance company ideally want a new...
  23. D

    Fire Sealant

    Getting a porch light fitted. Should the hole into the house be sealed with fire sealant? I know outside, at an upward angle and sealed to stop water. Light will be on brick wall outside and cable across cavity into house. Maybe paranoid? Given it's an old house (1970) I'd imagine there are more...
  24. R

    Is someone trying to rip a customer off? Advice on a Fire Risk Assessment

    Hi So a customer of mine has just had his fire extinguishers tested and for some reason the guy doing the fire extinguisher check removed this 600x600 flat LED panel and looked above it and said that what he sees is not safe and it's a fire risk. He proceeded to quote £600 to have 7 of these...
  25. happyhippydad

    Any recommendations for shallow, fire rated, insulation coverable, integrated downlights

    As in the title. I need downlights that can be covered in insulation, fire rated and integrated. Preferably quite shallow as well! I'm struggling a bit to meet all the above criteria :(. Cheers guys.
  26. L

    LED Lights - electric fire - where to get parts

    Hi all. I am trying to repair a wall mounted electric fire ( glass fronted type with pebbles along the bottom ) Fire itself is working, ie heating Ok and the fan works. Problem is the lights which give the flicker effect have stopped working properly, there are three lights which are on...
  27. stidge

    MF ceilings and fire containment

    Hi all , just quoting for some flat/apartments which will all be concrete ceilings with a 150mm MF ceiling , plaster boarded and skimmed . I’ve not done any for a few years so want to know what the minimum is now for fire containment? Is it acceptable to tie to MF rods with metal tyraps ? (...
  28. A

    Does sealing of a penetration of a exterior wall of a house need to be fire proof?

    I am running a conduit of cat5 inside, from basement of a house going through the exterior wall to a detached garage. I was just curious as someone in a home depot store had mentioned in order to seal the hole, made in the exterior wall of the house for the exterior electrical box, it needs to...
  29. N

    Can you hide a fire alarm panel in a commercial premises?

    Fire alarm panel currently installed in a high street premises signed off by building regs. Looking to install a stud partition in-front of all electrical services (including the fire panel) which are access via an unsecured hinged wall panel. Does this still meet regulations? Can anyone help...
  30. N

    Fire rated LED profile

    Hi, I am new in this forum thanks for adding me. I did try to use search option with not much luck. I work at Heathrow as an electrical guy but have not much domestic experience. Builders building my loft extension and not clear the ceiling roof must be fire rated or not. My property is in...
  31. A

    AFDD requirement and smoke alarms 18th ed

    Am I correct in thinking under the 18th edition for a new build property an AFDD is compulsory or is this not the case if risk assessed? I am still yet to complete my 18th ed. Also for new build properties is it still ok to hard wire smoke and fire detectors off lighting circuits under 18th...
  32. B

    Domestic electric fires

    I recently purchased a Dimplex Yeo 20 electric fire, and I'm trying to find out what type of original bars are fitted. Dimpex went site is very poor so no luck there likewise with Amazon questions when raised after purchase from them. My question is are the Infra-red silicon elements advertised...
  33. Lister1987

    Wanted Looking for a copy of Electrician's Guide to Fire Detection and Alarm Systems - Electrical Regulations (2nd Edition) - ISBN:9781849197632

    I'm after a copy of this book but everywhere i'm looking I can't find a single copy (new) and am seeing listings for £200+ for used copies. I understand it's a discontinued book and that the publication of the 3rd Edition has been pushed back to 2020 due to Grenfell Tower tragedy, which is...
  34. D

    Fire alarm loop test

    How to perform this test and it's resulted meaning
  35. A

    fire rated LED light covers

    Am hoping you can help Following an integral garage conversion, I am after a couple of fire hoods to cover some LED ceiling spotlights. The lights are in a plaster boarded ceiling which has a garage roof void above (the room is part of an integral garage conversion). Lights are around 150mm dia...
  36. N

    Grade D fire detection system annual certs?

    HMO property wants an annual periodic inspection cert for a grade D mains linked smoke alarm system. Far as I'm aware only installation and commisioning grade D fire detection system certs exists, and it's not actually recommended to give out annual periodics for these grade D smokes? Wiring...
  37. B

    Which fire rated downlighters?

    Evening, Feeling really confused about fire rated downlighters. We need 26 for our extension which is part flat ceiling and part vaulted ceiling. It's a kitchen/diner/family room. Have received opposing advice. Builder says just use Screwfix LAP fixed integral LED downlights. One electrician...
  38. J

    2nd Fix Fire installation Alton Hampshire

    Require 2 2nd fix installers for fire & security. Alton Leisure. GU34
  39. J

    L1 Smoke alarm / Fire alarm system

    Can anyone tell me - is there a difference between an L1 fire alarm system and an L1 smoke alarm system?
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