fire

  1. A

    Does sealing of a penetration of a exterior wall of a house need to be fire proof?

    I am running a conduit of cat5 inside, from basement of a house going through the exterior wall to a detached garage. I was just curious as someone in a home depot store had mentioned in order to seal the hole, made in the exterior wall of the house for the exterior electrical box, it needs to...
  2. N

    Can you hide a fire alarm panel in a commercial premises?

    Fire alarm panel currently installed in a high street premises signed off by building regs. Looking to install a stud partition in-front of all electrical services (including the fire panel) which are access via an unsecured hinged wall panel. Does this still meet regulations? Can anyone help...
  3. N

    Fire rated LED profile

    Hi, I am new in this forum thanks for adding me. I did try to use search option with not much luck. I work at Heathrow as an electrical guy but have not much domestic experience. Builders building my loft extension and not clear the ceiling roof must be fire rated or not. My property is in...
  4. A

    AFDD requirement and smoke alarms 18th ed

    Am I correct in thinking under the 18th edition for a new build property an AFDD is compulsory or is this not the case if risk assessed? I am still yet to complete my 18th ed. Also for new build properties is it still ok to hard wire smoke and fire detectors off lighting circuits under 18th...
  5. B

    Domestic electric fires

    I recently purchased a Dimplex Yeo 20 electric fire, and I'm trying to find out what type of original bars are fitted. Dimpex went site is very poor so no luck there likewise with Amazon questions when raised after purchase from them. My question is are the Infra-red silicon elements advertised...
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    Wanted Looking for a copy of Electrician's Guide to Fire Detection and Alarm Systems - Electrical Regulations (2nd Edition) - ISBN:9781849197632

    I'm after a copy of this book but everywhere i'm looking I can't find a single copy (new) and am seeing listings for £200+ for used copies. I understand it's a discontinued book and that the publication of the 3rd Edition has been pushed back to 2020 due to Grenfell Tower tragedy, which is...
  7. D

    Fire alarm loop test

    How to perform this test and it's resulted meaning
  8. A

    fire rated LED light covers

    Am hoping you can help Following an integral garage conversion, I am after a couple of fire hoods to cover some LED ceiling spotlights. The lights are in a plaster boarded ceiling which has a garage roof void above (the room is part of an integral garage conversion). Lights are around 150mm dia...
  9. N

    Grade D fire detection system annual certs?

    HMO property wants an annual periodic inspection cert for a grade D mains linked smoke alarm system. Far as I'm aware only installation and commisioning grade D fire detection system certs exists, and it's not actually recommended to give out annual periodics for these grade D smokes? Wiring...
  10. B

    Which fire rated downlighters?

    Evening, Feeling really confused about fire rated downlighters. We need 26 for our extension which is part flat ceiling and part vaulted ceiling. It's a kitchen/diner/family room. Have received opposing advice. Builder says just use Screwfix LAP fixed integral LED downlights. One electrician...
  11. J

    2nd Fix Fire installation Alton Hampshire

    Require 2 2nd fix installers for fire & security. Alton Leisure. GU34
  12. J

    L1 Smoke alarm / Fire alarm system

    Can anyone tell me - is there a difference between an L1 fire alarm system and an L1 smoke alarm system?
  13. S

    Fire alarm installation

    Thinking of branching out into fire alarm systems as Iv been doing a lot of HMOs and Iv been having a contractor in to undertake this. What qualifications do I need to add this to my portfolio
  14. Charlie_

    Fire destroys flats in Barking.

    Fortunately, all safely evacuated. Anybody done any work in these flats? Or got any juicy gossip?
  15. J

    Fire proof clips / cleats for SWA

    I need to do a horizontal run of SWA in a garage, first time doing it to 18th. Any suggestions / recommendations for fireproof clips for SWA?
  16. L

    Domestic New NHBC guidance for fire rated downlights / hoods

    For many years the market for fire rated downlights has been highly confusing with many manufacturers making claims but not always having the technical data to back up these claims. The NHBC has just launched new guidance to cover the use of fire rated downlights which makes it very clear that...
  17. S

    Fire alarm fault zone advice

    Hi guys, I haven't done much in the past with fire alarms but am starting to get more work leads with them so it is something I want to get into. Does anybody have a fire alarm zone fault checklist they wouldn't mind sharing please and what are the most common FA panel keys? By the looks of...
  18. DT1991

    Can anyone help with a fire alarm query.

    Can anyone assist me in finding out if all cables involved with a fire alarm system must be FP or similar. By fire alarm I mean sounders, call points, door holders etc. Thanks.
  19. J

    consumer unit smoking

    Here is a picture of the garage type cu that connects my 15kW solar to the main fuse. The brown wire was too short so two pieces were joined with a choc block. My electrician suggested that the chock block screws were too loose & caused the smouldering. He has replaced all the wires & in doing...
  20. Gary Tollison

    Kitchen ceiling lights fire rating

    greetings :) Was curious about the ceiling lights in the kitchen if they were fire rated or not. Google was no help with model info. There’s an F in a triangle symbol on the side, but I don’t know if that means anything. Any ideas? Thanks, Gary
  21. N

    Smoke alarm or fire alarm?

    Regs seem a bit confusing on this, but landlord is converting a house to HMO. 10 en suites, plus ground floor kitchen, all on just 2 floors (just ground and first floor). I know fire alarms if there are 3 floors. But with this many rooms, even though it's only 2 floors, is he breaking any...
  22. gazdkw82

    Fire detector options

    The fire alarm in the hallway is to sensitive when cooking. It's old and needs changing anyway. It's a mains voltage smoke alarm. I plan to replace it
  23. M

    Where to put smoke/fire/CO detectors, which type to use, etc.

    Hi I've got someone coming to quote for a load of electrical work later next week. Amongst the work will be installing fire/CO alarms around the house. I'll discuss the options and details with him, but wanted to get a heads up first so I can think about the options and requirements. I've...
  24. B

    Distance fire call point to light switch

    Hello, I need to add a switch for an outside light. The obvious place is near the back door but that is where the fire call point will go. Is there a minimum distance in any regualtions between the two? E.g. to prevent someone from accidentally pressing the call point while trying to press...
  25. littlespark

    Notre Dame Cathedral Fire

    Dodgy wiring, or plumber with a blow torch Discuss:
  26. T

    Commercial Fire sealing a hole temporarily

    Hi all, putting a hole through a wall soon for some data. Thing is, there's a chance there'll be more data to go through in the future (could be years away though). I wanted to put a big hole through the wall but then thought it's pointless as I'd need to fire seal it anyway. Anyone got a...
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    Fire panel for house??

    howdy all I am currently wiring and 6 bedroom new build house in Scotland. The architect has specifiedd a category L1 grade D system with multi sensor detectors. The usual heat in the kitchen etc. He has also asked for a fire alarm panel. I havent heard of a fire panel in a house before . Does...
  28. gazdkw82

    Fire alarm detectors-lighting

    I'm getting rid of the 2 fire alarm detectors and putting some new mains powered ones. I'm going to take it off the light fitting in the living room and landing. How's best to do this on a plastered ceiling? Work around the joists and get a t+e through? Might seem an easy question but I've...
  29. Gavin John Hyde

    interesting electrical fire in Yate nr Bristol

    Just read an interesting albeit brief story on a fire in Bristol. Looks as if the DNO cut out caught fire. its rare for a cut out to go up,more likely a loose wire on one of the tails to or from meter. looking at the images the incoming supply has been cut back and nothing is left. i like the...
  30. Thomas Connolly

    Fire Angel Heat and Smokes

    Hi Guys, Looking at wireless heat and smoke detectors that can be interlinked. Fire Angel do a range of these. Just want to know, are these ok seeing as they're wireless? Do heat/smokes have to be hard wired? Or will these wireless ones that can be linked be ok? Thanks T
  31. B

    SOS/ fire alarm help

    Could anyone help me wire this, have 17v to 60v sos light and beacon so have power supply feed this and I need to wire this micro switch so when the door opens the light and beacon come on? Thanks
  32. B

    Fire alarm Sounder wiring

    Hi got fire alarm sounder beacon, call point and micro switch for when the door opens to wire, Wire 2 core straight to call point this will be connection 1 for perm and connection 3 for load with neutrals in a wago then to beacon this has 4 terminals T1 is beacon negative supply T2 is sounder...
  33. O

    Fire alarm engineer insurance queries

    Hi there unsure where to ask so i have joined this forum hoping someone will know. I am currently employed by a large firm as a fire alarm engineer for the past 10 years mainly service and small works including emergency light service. I have completed many courses over the years and am Bafe...
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    Emergency light & fire alarm testing

    Hi all, I occasionally being asked to do fire alarm testing and emergency lighting testing. I work mainly on domestic installs but wondering what sort of qualification/competency you must have in order to carry those tasks. And is it any specific schemes like NIC/NAPIT does have to be involved...
  35. S

    commisioning fire alarm

    hi guys, installed a fire alarm system today at a property that contains 3 self contained flats. I had EU fire alarm company out to go through the specification detailed by the council so we could design something that would be compliant with not only there spec but also bs 5839, now we have...
  36. S

    Inline switch for electric fire

    I want to install an inline switch in the cable of a 2000 w electric fire. Any recommendations?
  37. Doomed

    Fire alarm what is this?

    Called to a hotel where the spark doing a refit took down something and then said that he had no idea what it was so they better call someone else. I then got called in and I have no idea what it is, apsrt from its the end of line on the fire alrm circuit.
  38. Ian Howe

    Plug on electric fire

    I've replaced a gas fire with an inset electric fire, would you recommend connecting it to a fused spur or is it ok to just plug it in. If I was to plug it in the cable would have to come from under the floor and through the skirting, so thinking that's not allowed. Thanks for any advise.
  39. Ian Howe

    Fireproof downlights

    Just bought a few led downlights IP65 rated for the bathroom to replace some old halogen downlights, I haven't bought fireproof and on removing one old light there's loft insulation directly above. Do I need to use fireproof lights or hoods, lamps are 240V but only 5W
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