2 x sockets : EICR . What would you code . Then another question !

[LukeD]

Going by the pictures the sockets look to be disconnected and removed.

Photos of sockets after removal .

 

[uc1987]

Really ...the test is what is found .Then any issues get sorted/new sockets etc .The whole purpose of the test was to clarify a complaint that the first EICR never noted them as been

 

[LukeD]

And the second guy wont class them as a C2 when he found them on arrival still in use .

yep..Interesting that its normally the Other pin . so could be some form of appliance issue etc etc . BUT thats nothing to do with the report ! Its not what was used its the condition of the circuits and fittings etc.

 

[uc1987]

Really ...the test is what is found .Then any issues get sorted/new sockets etc .The whole purpose of the test was to clarify a complaint that the first EICR never noted them as been an issues .

Not sure where you're getting your information from. If the socket is replaced and than a full test has been done. Why would you code it?

 

[LukeD]

Not sure where you're getting your information from. If the socket is replaced and than a full test has been done. Why would you code it?

Report is what was found Not what was left . The purpose of the test was made clear to them' "Code as you find " . Not Code after completion .Otherwise whats the point of the Test ???

Observations are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded based on their risk level.​

Fixed Wire Testing ensures your electrical installations are safe and it is governed by the IET Wiring Regulations, the latest version of which is the 18th Edition also referred to as BS 7671 (which came into affect on 1 January 2019).

After completing the fixed wire testing of your installations, your specialist electrical contractor will supply you with an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). This report will indicate any problems or ‘observations’ which are coded according to their risk factor, but what do these codes mean?

Need Fixed Wire Testing?Speak to the team

Observations are recorded on your Fixed Wiring Report, also known as as an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). They are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded according to their danger level, using the codes C1, C2, C3 and FI.

Code C1​

A Code 1 (C1) observation means ‘ Danger present. Risk of injury. Immediate remedial action required.’

A C1 represents an immediate threat to the safety of your employees, customers or guests and should be rectified or made safe as soon as possible.

An example of a C1 defect would be accessible live conductors due to damage, poorly modified enclosures or removed maintenance panels. Incorrect polarity would also attract a code C1 as it may allow conductive parts, not normally expected to be live, to become live.

Once a C1 threat is identified, your Intersafe engineer will inform the duty holder or responsible person for the installation immediately, both verbally and in writing, of the risk of injury that exists. Access to the faulty circuit may even be blocked, or the circuit turned off until the the defect is fixed.

Code C2​

A Code 2 (C2) is not as severe as a C1, but is still a potentially dangerous defect. They may not pose an immediate threat but are likely to become a danger in the future. A C2 is described as ‘Potentially dangerous – urgent remedial action required.’

The phrase “potentially dangerous”, in the C2 code is designed to point towards a risk of injury from contact with live parts after a sequence of events. A sequence of events could mean that an individual may gain access to live parts through a day to day task that would not usually be expected to give access to live parts.

Code FI​

 

[uc1987]

Report is what was found Not what was left . The purpose of the test was made clear to them' "Code as you find " . Not Code after completion .Otherwise whats the point of the Test ???

Observations are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded based on their risk level.​

Fixed Wire Testing ensures your electrical installations are safe and it is governed by the IET Wiring Regulations, the latest version of which is the 18th Edition also referred to as BS 7671 (which came into affect on 1 January 2019).

After completing the fixed wire testing of your installations, your specialist electrical contractor will supply you with an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). This report will indicate any problems or ‘observations’ which are coded according to their risk factor, but what do these codes mean?

Need Fixed Wire Testing?Speak to the team

Observations are recorded on your Fixed Wiring Report, also known as as an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). They are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded according to their danger level, using the codes C1, C2, C3 and FI.

Code C1​

A Code 1 (C1) observation means ‘ Danger present. Risk of injury. Immediate remedial action required.’

A C1 represents an immediate threat to the safety of your employees, customers or guests and should be rectified or made safe as soon as possible.

An example of a C1 defect would be accessible live conductors due to damage, poorly modified enclosures or removed maintenance panels. Incorrect polarity would also attract a code C1 as it may allow conductive parts, not normally expected to be live, to become live.

Once a C1 threat is identified, your Intersafe engineer will inform the duty holder or responsible person for the installation immediately, both verbally and in writing, of the risk of injury that exists. Access to the faulty circuit may even be blocked, or the circuit turned off until the the defect is fixed.

Code C2​

A Code 2 (C2) is not as severe as a C1, but is still a potentially dangerous defect. They may not pose an immediate threat but are likely to become a danger in the future. A C2 is described as ‘Potentially dangerous – urgent remedial action required.’

The phrase “potentially dangerous”, in the C2 code is designed to point towards a risk of injury from contact with live parts after a sequence of events. A sequence of events could mean that an individual may gain access to live parts through a day to day task that would not usually be expected to give access to live parts.

Code FI​

Who is requesting

Report is what was found Not what was left . The purpose of the test was made clear to them' "Code as you find " . Not Code after completion .Otherwise whats the point of the Test ???

Observations are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded based on their risk level.​

Fixed Wire Testing ensures your electrical installations are safe and it is governed by the IET Wiring Regulations, the latest version of which is the 18th Edition also referred to as BS 7671 (which came into affect on 1 January 2019).

After completing the fixed wire testing of your installations, your specialist electrical contractor will supply you with an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). This report will indicate any problems or ‘observations’ which are coded according to their risk factor, but what do these codes mean?

Need Fixed Wire Testing?Speak to the team

Observations are recorded on your Fixed Wiring Report, also known as as an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR). They are things which are wrong with your installation that need rectifying and they are coded according to their danger level, using the codes C1, C2, C3 and FI.

Code C1​

A Code 1 (C1) observation means ‘ Danger present. Risk of injury. Immediate remedial action required.’

A C1 represents an immediate threat to the safety of your employees, customers or guests and should be rectified or made safe as soon as possible.

An example of a C1 defect would be accessible live conductors due to damage, poorly modified enclosures or removed maintenance panels. Incorrect polarity would also attract a code C1 as it may allow conductive parts, not normally expected to be live, to become live.

Once a C1 threat is identified, your Intersafe engineer will inform the duty holder or responsible person for the installation immediately, both verbally and in writing, of the risk of injury that exists. Access to the faulty circuit may even be blocked, or the circuit turned off until the the defect is fixed.

Code C2​

A Code 2 (C2) is not as severe as a C1, but is still a potentially dangerous defect. They may not pose an immediate threat but are likely to become a danger in the future. A C2 is described as ‘Potentially dangerous – urgent remedial action required.’

The phrase “potentially dangerous”, in the C2 code is designed to point towards a risk of injury from contact with live parts after a sequence of events. A sequence of events could mean that an individual may gain access to live parts through a day to day task that would not usually be expected to give access to live parts.

Code FI​

The only person giving instructions is the person paying the invoice. Most people will get these jobs done on the 1st visit to save money. Why would you prolonged such a small job I just don't understand?

 

[DPG]

Who is requesting

The only person giving instructions is the person paying the invoice. Most people will get these jobs done on the 1st visit to save money. Why would you prolonged such a small job I just don't understand?

He's asking opinions on what particular code people would give it. There has been a report done where a code wasn't given.

The only question here is what code would people give. Not 'would you change it?'.

Unless I've misunderstood.

 

[uc1987]

He's asking opinions on what particular code people would give it. There has been a report done where a code wasn't given.

The only question here is what code would people give. Not 'would you change it?'.

Unless I've misunderstood.

A socket that is not connected I wouldn't give it a code it.

 

[DPG]

A socket that is not connected I wouldn't give it a code it.

I think you're trolling. All good fun I suppose.

 

[LukeD]

A socket that is not connected I wouldn't give it a code it.

Ok...Council demanded landlord gets second EICR . First one "drive by" less than 20 mins no use of a MFT etc etc .Tenant get Council environmental health involved . They turn up .....Try reading the whole post ! Its a report of "Condition as found " Then codes get issued , customer say fix as required , Then Clean bill of health given

 

[uc1987]

I think you're trolling. All

Ok...Council demanded landlord gets second EICR . First one "drive by" less than 20 mins no use of a MFT etc etc .Tenant get Council environmental health involved . They turn up .....Try reading the whole post ! Its a report of "Condition as found " Then codes get issued , customer say fix as required , Then Clean bill of health given

20mins. Woow.. he must be super mans brother.

 

[LukeD]

20mins. Woow.. he must be super mans brother.

Its nasty...very vulnerable lady with 2 young kids etc .The landlord left them without a oven for 3-4 months at Christmas .They are really bullying her

 

[LukeD]

Update .... Council Environmental inspector came and showed concerns and said it still remains a NEICIC matter but its still the "Local Authority" who prosecute etc etc . He also noted some other issues that made the management company worry ! SO , today I hear back from NEICIC . Their main concern is they cannot locate the company V the Registration number . So thats not a good start for the Electrician ! The photos of the burnt sockets also have been mentioned and "past up the line " . So far so good .