3kw shower!

[Deleted member 9648]

Clutching at straws here methinks but I promised a client I'd do my best.
Scenario is a stable block being knocked down and rebuilt with the existing supply definately not being replaced. The client has asked if a shower head on a long hose is possible so that horses and dogs can be washed down with lukewarm water.With the other gear being installed the existing supply is only able to manage 3kw for the possible shower. Hot tanks and immersion heaters and other options have already been suggested and binned on cost grounds,which really only leaves the idea of a mains water electric shower with an extra long hose of max rating 3kw.
Anyone know of such a thing?

 

[Plonker 3]

Depending on how often/long it would be used, could you not use a small over sink water heater?

 

[Leesparkykent]

What about one of these, probably could find one cheaper than this also.

https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/...9NyzR_pAitko6MCZaur7Gxz712ftRsOVMDBoCTtPw_wcB

 

[Marvo]

Have you looked at an LPG instant water heater? I'm not sure if a 3kw shower is going to be up to the job of washing down horses.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Depending on how often/long it would be used, could you not use a small over sink water heater?

Maybe,we had thought of using a standard handwash heater,but the spout connection on those are not the threaded connection of a shower hose,but an O ring push in type.Probably the same issue with say a 7ltr oversink unit.

 

[GMES]

I think you will need a Horse pipe :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Guest77]

Insta Hot® - Portable Equine Washing System in Bathing Necessities at Schneider Saddlery

 

[Deleted member 9648]

What about one of these, probably could find one cheaper than this also.

https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/...9NyzR_pAitko6MCZaur7Gxz712ftRsOVMDBoCTtPw_wcB

That one could well do it,plumbed to an outside hose connection point.
Cheers mate.

 

[Des 56]

If all else fails there is always something along these lines
Portable Gas Powered Shower

 

[Leesparkykent]

That one could well do it,plumbed to an outside hose connection point.
Cheers mate.

The only thing is the flow rate might not be brilliant.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Insta Hot® - Portable Equine Washing System in Bathing Necessities at Schneider Saddlery

Cheers for that,but she's already talked about those and said it's not what she wants.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Have you looked at an LPG instant water heater? I'm not sure if a 3kw shower is going to be up to the job of washing down horses.

I dont think she wants to wash down the whole thing,just a rinse down of the legs with water thats not stone cold. But yes,flow rate might be a bit feeble even for that by the time it's got round a long hose.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Marvo

maybe they are shetland ponies

 

[Tidy Max]

I don't like horses.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I don't like horses.

Neither do I. Mainly 'cos Mrs 'puller has one and I'm going to spend the rest of my life paying out for the 'kin thing.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I think they all look a bit shifty. In my best president bush

"cayent trust 'em"

 

[snowhead]

They can afford new stables and the very expensive costs of keeping horses but they won't pay for a decent hot water source?

Are they also not prepared to pay for the correct backflow prevention for the water supply?

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I think they all look a bit shifty. In my best president bush

"cayent trust 'em"

I like cows even less. Unless I'm eating one,then they are ok.

 

[Leesparkykent]

LPG multipoint heater would be the best option.

 

[jimmymac]

I don't like horses.

They make great burgers......get yourself to Tesco!

 

[7029 dave]

Been looking Wire, I am too slow on net, got some good options.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

They can afford new stables and the very expensive costs of keeping horses but they won't pay for a decent hot water source?

Are they also not prepared to pay for the correct backflow prevention for the water supply?[/QUOTE]

Tell me about it.
15mm Non return valves are not expensive mind you.

 

[snowhead]

15mm Non return valves are not expensive mind you.

They are also unlikely to be suitable for the situation.
Have they given notice to the local Water co. of the proposed works?
They'll assess what is required.

Failure to notify can have implications for the owner AND anyone installing showers, water heaters etc,

.

 

[telectrix]

i nssem to remember eng54 saying he had a 3kW shower in cyprus for some time.

 

[Marvo]

I'd be surprised if Eng54 has got anything less than a 11kW shower in his house

 

[telectrix]

here you go... post#24.

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...al-electrical-forum/46732-shower-9-5kw-3.html

 

[shanky887614]

I'd be surprised if Eng54 has got anything less than a 11kW shower in his house

?

i nssem to remember eng54 saying he had a 3kW shower in cyprus for some time.

are you sure it wasnt a typo and it was actually 33

 

[Des 56]

i nssem to remember eng54 saying he had a 3kW shower in cyprus for some time.

Ok lets get the competition rolling because I will win,Eng54 was a 6KW showeree lol

 

[telectrix]

both wrong. it was 4.5kW. see link in post#26

 

[Marvo]

I wonder if it's on a 1.5mm or 2.5mm final circuit

 

[Des 56]

I wonder if it's on a 1.5mm or 2.5mm final circuit

And a TT system with a Rcd (the readings not good enough for a Mcb)

 

[PEG]

i nssem to remember eng54 saying he had a 3kW shower in cyprus for some time.

...It wasn't "3kW",it was "Golden"...and what happens on holiday,stays on holiday :icon12:

 

[SPARTYKUS]

...It wasn't "3kW",it was "Golden"...and what happens on holiday,stays on holiday :icon12:

Oooo matron, norrrrrty

 

[pennychew]

...It wasn't "3kW",it was "Golden"...and what happens on holiday,stays on holiday :icon12:

Lol!!!

 

[Deleted member 9648]

They are also unlikely to be suitable for the situation.
Have they given notice to the local Water co. of the proposed works?
They'll assess what is required.

Failure to notify can have implications for the owner AND anyone installing showers, water heaters etc,

.

No,not notifying anyone.
It's also going to be on a TNCS supply with no RCD.
So there!


Joking of course. At the moment it is just being considered. If it happens along those lines it will be installed by a plumber who will be responsible for water considerations.

 

[Guest77]

Well everything available on the market has been suggested now, looks like your customer wants something which doesn't exist then?

 

[Spoon]

They have a few at CPC. Heres one.
43769715 - REDRING - HAND WASH UNIT, INSTANT, REDRING | CPC UK

As has already been mentioned, dont know of if they will be good enough to wash hourses.

 

[Bobster]

Hot water compact class | Kärcher UK

The horses will be sparkling!

 

[Des 56]

Well everything available on the market has been suggested now, looks like your customer wants something which doesn't exist then?

The best advice for them

They need these 2 items


No 1 to rectify the problem and

No 2 to keep proof of the rectification

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Many thanks for all the posts chaps. I'll be talking to client next week and see how far she wants to go. (with the shower that is.....)