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Leesparkykent
Ive never used the stuff but would like to hear others opinions?
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LankyWill
Takes dumbing down the industry to a new level, i cant see the benefits if im honest. I would rather fit plastic conduit with pipe cement than that kiss me arse product.
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Leesparkykent
It looks quick though....saves all that threading.
I have seen it but never used it I don't see a problem with it. Some may argue the skill has been taken away but what skill, threading a piece of tube? You would still need to form it if necessary and that is the skill.
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LankyWill
Come on Lee that’s what the apprentice is for, that and carrying the bundles in.
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Nigel
Are the grub screws satisfactory to continue the earth?
The Electric Centre had it in their catalogue for a while but soon took it out.
Reminds me of a song --Wiggle it ,Just a little bit --
(and my contact is gone !)
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Deleted member 26818
Apparently it exceeds the current standard for earth continuity.
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Nigel
I get nervous when sentences start woth the word apparently.
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Nigel
Personally I would not touch this crap with a barge pole. I would be embarressed to install it.
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suffolkspark
Is this the Deta stuff? I saw it recently online, I guess it serves a purpose, I've actually got a job coming up where i planned on giving it a go.... Will report back
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Deleted member 26818
I must admit to having reservations about using the conlock system.
However after working with both on a site earlier this year, I can say that the conlock system is much easier and quicker to install.
Good points are that there is no off square threads, no need for cutting grease and no blunt thread dies.
Drawbacks are that it needs some mastic or sealant when used outdoors, you need couplers and adapters (same as with plastic) and people are always losing the Allen keys that come in every box of boxes.
The lengths of conduit we were using were threaded.
However after working with both on a site earlier this year, I can say that the conlock system is much easier and quicker to install.
Good points are that there is no off square threads, no need for cutting grease and no blunt thread dies.
Drawbacks are that it needs some mastic or sealant when used outdoors, you need couplers and adapters (same as with plastic) and people are always losing the Allen keys that come in every box of boxes.
The lengths of conduit we were using were threaded.
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Is it actually suitable for external use?
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Apparently yes when used with sealant.
Probably has to be special sealant only available from conlock.
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Nigel
Not sure it is for external use as I see no type of sealer on their website.
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Recommends in FAQs, using CT1 mastic in high rainfall areas.
http://www.demoncato.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Conlok-FAQs.pdf
So do you just use standard conduit but use the Conlock fittings?
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Deleted member 26818
That’s what they were doing at THFC.
Not sure if the cut off the threaded ends or just pushed them into the fittings?
The thickness of the walls of conlock couplers and adapters is about the same as that of the boxes. Quite chunky compared to threaded couplers.
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Nigel
I bet that was never in the specification. Probably brought in as a labour saving excercise half-way throw due to the over run.
That and can then get a load of monkeys in with allen keys to wack conduit up.
Liberty.
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I started there on the second of January this year.
They were using then and had been using it the year before.
From what I could tell, Imtech had been using it from the start.
They were using then and had been using it the year before.
From what I could tell, Imtech had been using it from the start.
I can understand the attraction of the speed and ease of installation, and having built many structures with Kee Klamp tube I can believe that Conlock will do the job up to a point. But no matter how well it does or doesn't work, it feels like a bodge because for nearly a century, pin-grip, lug-grip and other types of slip conduit fittings were considered unreliable for maintaining continuity and could not be used as a CPC. For cheap slip jobs there was also 'close joint' tube, i.e. unwelded, that obviously couldn't be threaded and didn't exclude moisture and air from the cables. Only domestic and budget commercial work ever specced slip conduit and many contracts specifically prohibited it, so any pin grip system would definitely seem like a corner-cutting exercise.
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Toneyz
I think the advert I saw said it did.
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The company are advertising that it’s been used on some fairly major sites.
I doubt that periodic checking of the tightness of the grub screws has been factored in to any costings.
I also know that on one site, that many of the grub screws are or will be inaccessible.
I would imagine there are a lot lying on the floor too
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Memory’s not great, seem to recall a 2.5mm Allen key fits.
Not sure about pointed or not?
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davesparks
It was used in a new build entertainment venue locally a few years ago.
Working on a few shows there I’ve seen a number of conduit joints which have fallen apart leaving the singles inside as the only thing holding up some parts of the conduit. They’ve probably been knocked a few times in the normal use of the installation, but they certainly didn’t stand up to it!
I can see it being ok for installations where the conduit is more decorative than functional, but not where actual mechanical strength is required
Working on a few shows there I’ve seen a number of conduit joints which have fallen apart leaving the singles inside as the only thing holding up some parts of the conduit. They’ve probably been knocked a few times in the normal use of the installation, but they certainly didn’t stand up to it!
I can see it being ok for installations where the conduit is more decorative than functional, but not where actual mechanical strength is required
Mechanical strength.
Some customers only want the decorative effect of galvanised conduit in their oak barn garages etc , so the mechanical strength is not an issue as everything is fixed rigidly
TheConduitKing
Trainee
I've mainly used conlock working down in Ireland. It is much much faster and easier to work with than normal conduit.
Makes fitting so much simpler. Doesn't matter if your cuts ends aren't perfectly square or if you're slightly off with your measurements as you have a couple mm inside your coupler / box.
No threading required just a small set/grub screw that needs to be tightened. As long as you make sure they are done up nice and tight it's very unlikely that the conduit will come apart.
Makes fitting so much simpler. Doesn't matter if your cuts ends aren't perfectly square or if you're slightly off with your measurements as you have a couple mm inside your coupler / box.
No threading required just a small set/grub screw that needs to be tightened. As long as you make sure they are done up nice and tight it's very unlikely that the conduit will come apart.
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nicebutdim
Funnily enough my own experience of it was south of the border. It's alright, but a bit bulky.
The only experience I've had of it was in Dublin. It really takes the skill out of the job, but then most of the people i was working with barely had the ability to work out what cables were required for the circuit never mind putting up a simple piece of conduit. Don't think I'd ever use it myself, grub screw wouldn't be up to anywhere near as much abuse as a threaded joint.
What skill is there is cutting and threading pipe though?
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