NICEIC Certification Scheme comfused by NICEIC statement

[Pete999]

Are you saying that this is going to be left like this and covered over? if yes then it is obviously non compliant, if however it is left like this not engineered, locked off until the plastering has been done, so all OK. One point though that cable doesn't look like 2.5mm2m why because one of those cpcs looks suspiciously like it#s yellow and not G/Y Just saying.

Sorry for the bad spelling, engineered should read energised, darn spell checks.

 

[hoitytoity]

Sorry for the bad spelling, engineered should read energised, darn spell checks.

it's not locked off it's taped over.

 

[Darkwood]

You are correct in that they should be longer but this is simply resolved, it does happen as every detail in a build is not always as perceived or expected hence we usually give a little allowance for these things or ensure we know the depth.
That aside I don't think it warrants the reaction you are giving, it is simply going to need a small joint and longer tails out to the socket, the gap between the board and the metal box is a none issue, the only criticism would be this is not locked off supply, again he may have confidence in you that you are aware of the situation and circumstances mean that it is not going to be accidentally switch on, it may not be the prescribed method but unless something has occurred or you perceive it may be switched on by accident then I wouldn't make an issue out of it.
You're at risk of falling out with your electrician over a minor issue, did you discuss this with them and what was there answer if so that made you decide to contact the NICEIC.

 

[hoitytoity]

Sorry for the bad spelling, engineered should read energised, darn spell checks. Just so nobody jumps in with a bad spelling Icon.

you think they used lighting cable?

 

[hoitytoity]

you think they used lighting cable?

the builder was kicked off the job as he left it like this since 14th Aug. How is a 1in gap a non issue between the face plate and frame. Surely the metal frames should have been fixed to battens so the face plate would be fixed securely over with no movement. Also hole cut in plaster board is bigger than the frame.

 

[hoitytoity]

you think they used lighting cable?

yes

 

[solarsavings]

They haven't.

 

[Pete999]

you think they used lighting cable?

I didn't say that, I said it doesn't look like 2.5mm2, without being there I can't be sure, but maybe, looks suspiciously like it though

 

[FatAlan]

What did you specifically complain to the NICEIC about? Was it just that the socket had been left in that state and was live? Did you raise concerns with the spark befor reporting to NICEIC?

 

[westward10]

I personally think it is a poorly fitted back box plus it looks as if those conductors will need extending.

 

[westward10]

I didn't say that, I said it doesn't look like 2.5mm2, without being there I can't be sure, but maybe, looks suspiciously like it though

It is 2.5

 

[SparkyChick]

the builder was kicked off the job as he left it like this since 14th Aug. How is a 1in gap a non issue between the face plate and frame. Surely the metal frames should have been fixed to battens so the face plate would be fixed securely over with no movement. Also hole cut in plaster board is bigger than the frame.

Ok, so when did he get kicked off and why was it left like that? Could be a very good reason.

 

[Pete999]

It is 2.5

How can you be so sure did you do it?

 

[Darkwood]

If the hole is bigger then that is down to the plasterer or builder for not cutting it correctly, having a gap like I said is not an issue as long as the live terminals are not accessible or exposed when second fixed.
I get the impression this has been a bit of a rocky ride and only having one side of the story means it is difficult to give a overall view but as for the issues we can see then we can give you our professional opinion.
Maybe it is the perspective in the photo but it doesn't come across as been too big a hole but if that is the case then all that needs to be done at this stage is the section of plasterboard to be cut out and a new piece put in with a correctly side socket cutout. A deeper metal box could also be fitted but that is not really a issue tbh.

 

[hoitytoity]

bec

So, playing devils advocate... why did the spark leave it like that in the first place?

because he went onto another job, didn't prep the room properly for the plasterer to carry on. Plasterer refused to touch this wall and walked off the job. It's been like that ever since. The electrician is also the builder. The plaster board is also on an external solid wall so water vapour builds up. The plaster board wall has mould on it where the dot and dabs are.