NICEIC Certification Scheme comfused by NICEIC statement

[Toneyz]

no he's NICEIC qualified

Not such a qualification.

 

[MDJ]

NICEIC approved is more like it not qualified.

 

[buzzlightyear]

the builder is the electrician

i didn't dot and dab, the electrician/builder did it .

corrected that for you .

lime plaster board to let it breath.

you mean foil plaster board .?

 

[hoitytoity]

corrected that for you .
you mean foil plaster board .?

yes

 

[hoitytoity]

further to my comments the one frame is not straight and when cover placed over there are gaps on the bottom left hand corner and on the right hand edge

 

[hoitytoity]

NICEIC approved is more like it not qualified.

doesn't he need to qualify to NICEIC standards to be approved ?

 

[Sintra]

My opinion is that the socket box looks fine for a first fix. They’ve even used grommets and earned the backbox. We don’t even know that this could become live as for all we know it could be disconnected at the cu or at another point on the circuit. The gap between the backbox and the plasterboard is a non issue at this stage as there are extension boxes available to bring it out further not that it particularly needs it. As for contacting NICEIC that’s a bit extreme for a first fixed socket. Your concern seems to be about the plasterboard wall getting damp. Have you contacted anybody about that? Even if the backbox was extended it’s not going to stop any dampness so I really don’t get the point of this thread.

@hoitytoity any chance you could answer my question.

 

[FatAlan]

i didn't dot and dab, the electrician did. The walls are solid stone and brick. Yes i agree very poor move for dot and dab
should have been battened and used a lime plaster board to let it breath. Assumed all builders knew that. Damp walls and gap between face plate and frame is not good news.

Not sure you can get lime plasterboard. Sounds like a big breakdown in communication with the builder/ electrician over the final finish of the wall/rendering.

 

[richy3333]

doesn't he need to qualify to NICEIC standards to be approved ?

No.
He needs to comply with NICEIC rules to become an Approved Contractor. He doesn't have to be one tho. The NICEIC dont set the 'standards'.

 

[Rosco]

No.
He needs to comply with NICEIC rules to become an Approved Contractor. He doesn't have to be one tho. The NICEIC dont set the 'standards'.

Even if they think they do

 

[Strima]

So the builder is the electrician? That explains a lot.

Without seeing the full installation first hand it is very difficult to ascertain the full extend of the problems with the installation.

The MCB should have a lockout fitted, not taped over. Lockouts are cheap enough to buy and a couple of quid is well spent if it stops someone from getting an electric shock.

Looking at the state of that cut out around the drywall I would hate to think what else he has butchered.

My advise would be to employ the services of an ELECTRICIAN not a builder who does some wiring to inspect and possibly test the work that the builder has carried out so for then, if found to be dangerous or non-compliant, raise a complaint with the NICEIC.

More than likely one of our forum members is local to you.

 

[Deleted account]

The problem is not with the electrical instalation. It's with the plaster board.
I think this is an issue with the general building project.
It just so happens the electrician did the plaster board.
This is the problem with being jack of all trades. The spark may be a very competant spark, but not so good plasterboarder.
He's wearing too many hats.

 

[goasis]

Walls get dot and dabbed all the time, plasterboard gets cut badly around back boxes all the time... Not a major concern. We get over it.
So the builders been kicked off and your complaining the job isn't finished?! Agree that if that circuit is energised you have some cause for complaint, other than that, stop snagging unfinished work

 

[hoitytoity]

@hoitytoity any chance you could answer my question.

the builder is the electrician. I've said this about 4 times in the thread

 

[hoitytoity]

Walls get dot and dabbed all the time, plasterboard gets cut badly around back boxes all the time... Not a major concern. We get over it.
So the builders been kicked off and your complaining the job isn't finished?! Agree that if that circuit is energised you have some cause for complaint, other than that, stop snagging unfinished work

um no, i have not said the builder was kicked off. I haven't said that once in my thread

 

[Deleted account]

the builder is the electrician. I've said this about 4 times in the thread

Who did you say the builder is?

Sorry just kidding.

 

[snowhead]

Is this work subject to building control?
Why is the wall being boarded over?
What was the brief given to the Builder re materials to be used, is this in the form of a written contract?
Which room is this, if it's a kitchen is the board going to be tiled once plastered?

 

[snowhead]

um no, i have not said the builder was kicked off. I haven't said that once in my thread

Post no 20.

 

[hoitytoity]

The problem is not with the electrical instalation. It's with the plaster board.
I think this is an issue with the general building project.
It just so happens the electrician did the plaster board.
This is the problem with being jack of all trades. The spark may be a very competant spark, but not so good plasterboarder.
He's wearing too many hats.

 

[hoitytoity]

but as a NICEIC electrician, he should know better and knowtheplasterboard is incorrect. Very worrying indeed