Consumer Unit Changes - What make & what price?

[richy3333]

I'm up in the 'Heelands', 8 miles down a single track road. A 1.5 hour drive is nothing around here

Last time I went to Pembrokeshire I stayed near to Dale but explored all over the area.

 

[Spazz]

Ok makes sense.

Also just to let you know Dale is the smallest town in Pembrokeshire - that area only counts towards 5% at most of the county.

Pembrokeshire is the largest county in Wales by far.

Im not saying your not more remote - but Im sure you know what its like then - limited customers and loads of pub sparks with no Part P Scheme who do anything and everything.

Eitherway back to the topic!

 

[richy3333]

Where we live is the least populated area in northern Europe. There are fewer people per square mile than anywhere.

I look at it another way - the customer base isn't limited, but with historic and endemic 'pub sparks' (some of whom have worked on the said pub electric's too!) it's a case of educating 'Joe public' so they know why to use you. If you think you have it bad, we don't even have Part P in Scotland so it's more of a Wild West with electric's up here.

Either way, and regardless there's never any excuse for not doing something properly and as per the Regs in my opinion.

 

[Plonker 3]

NO BONDING - NO STARTING WORK!

Strange you seem to think different in this thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...-adding-light-switch-existing-cuircuit-2.html

 

[Welchyboy]

Strange you seem to think different in this thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...-adding-light-switch-existing-cuircuit-2.html

With all due respect after reading some of the above linked post it amazes me that this person is a 'registered electrician' just another example of the absolute joke that is 'PART P'

 

[richy3333]

Strange you seem to think different in this thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...-adding-light-switch-existing-cuircuit-2.html

Read this too and far from impressed

 

[Spazz]

Please note that this post was when I first started! First Job under myself. I was being shadowed by a registered sparky who was assisting me at the time.
He told me that I had to ensure earthing was inplace for the circuit I was working on only!
He also told me aload which was mainly wrong.

As soon as this was pointed out I corrected it! - it turned out there was bonding inplace but hidden behind the cupboard out of sight, I only found this out from doing a continuity Test of the pipe - socket and got a very low reading (<0.3 Ohms).

Just to give more info about this spark hes long gone now (from my work) but hes still working (NICEIC) registered and signing off other people's work.

I have done alot of research into Shock Protection as can be seen with regards to the RCD campaign which is with the AM Minister for my MP now in London and waiting for his view, then it will be in Parliament in the next few weeks. Will keep all updated on the FB page.
Yes I know alot dont like this but it will save lives if it goes through and it will generate alot of work for everyone as a result!

Since this job - I never touch a job unless I am 100% happy with all bonding in place and the earth arrangement is upto standard.

I also try and insist (as much as I can) to ensure that a RCD is in place (like I know others do as well).

Just to let people know - this was my first job - shadowed by another spark
Been doing non notifiable wok for 6 years before (that what was notifiable I was having LABC to sign it off as my grandfather was so tight not to go with NICEIC)
I corrected this within 1hr of realizing my mistake
I have since done my 17th Ed and doing my 2391 now - exam in 3 weeks (or so)
If anyone has any questions about my ability - take me on a job (I will work for free!) just pay my travel! and I will show you my level of skill!

 

[trev]

To be honest every member should be inspected at least 5 times a year - and I DONT mean planned inspections!

The scheme provider has the addresses of the customers that you have done work for - how hard is it to send a letter to them asking a few questions:

Would you be happy paying the massive increase in your annual fee that this would generate?
As for the rest of it, "Getting rid of the licensed cowboys" Sorry mate but Part P and Competent Persons Schemes and legislation has not exactly been a roaring success has it?

 

[oldtimer]

Would you be happy paying the massive increase in your annual fee that this would generate?
As for the rest of it, "Getting rid of the licensed cowboys" Sorry mate but Part P and Competent Persons Schemes and legislation has not exactly been a roaring success has it?

I tend to agree with you trev I think we are over regulated I mean what happened before registration companies popped up as for being inspected 5 times a year well yes if you have done a Schemie 5 week course and then all the rest of it . It has also not helped that they are badging anything with a pulse as long as it pays the subs only to turn out to be a box ticking exercise

 

[jase]

"NO BONDING - NO STARTING WORK!"


I'd love to be so busy I could turn down work because the customer does not want me to install it! I've even had cases of customers not wanting it because it wouldn't look nice and regulaly have to paint the cable black to keep them happy. Cant you just use a black one and sleeve it each end?? lol Don't get me wrong, I'm strongly advising it all the time but people just seem to be suspicious of my motives. They are happy to pay to get what they want but don't want to pay for essential safety precautions. I even tell them about the poor lady in Cornwall last year found dead in the bath by her daughter because the taps were live.
I had a strange installation for a friend last weekend, no internal stopcock, no idea where the incoming pipe entered the house. Plastic under the kitchen sink and in bathroom but metal pipes to the new washing machine and copper pipes feeding electric 'wet' heating system. Only one earth wire at conunit. (6mm) disapearing under kitchen floor (polished floorboards) and no sign of earth stake. (TT)
Got to presume 6mm goes to earth stake under kitchen floor due to Ze being reasonable but god knows about the water earthing. Can't lift kitchen floor to inspect without damage. Can't get an earth cable to visible copper pipes at rear of property without running cable surface front to back internally. Just had to recommend it but not heard anything yet about doing it and thats a friend!

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