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Imo there's a limit on how much torque you actually need though. It's like people who pull their wires over X BHP in a car or bragging theirs can do 168mph when you can't even go that speed.Seems Iike those 2 are very similar in their target market anyhow ,base pro level
The Milwaukee combi above twice the torque and probably way better build quality for twice the price
Well that's right and the impacts can do the tougher work anywayImo there's a limit on how much torque you actually need though. It's like people who pull their wires over X BHP in a car or bragging theirs can do 168mph when you can't even go that speed.
For almost any job on site, the torque is going to be just fine on any pro model of combi. Most of us have an SDS for anything bigger anyway.
I'll give it its due the Makita impact driver was half decent but still relying on a crap battery.Well that's right and the impacts can do the tougher work anyway
Because specs and figures aren't relevant if the batteries don't hold charge and the chucks come loose etc.
What i'm looking for in a tool is that they're reliable so i can actually count on them to work when i need them. No good having 'wrist shattering torque' if the batteries start to die after a dozen cycles or the chucks are coming loose and need replacing. You could argue this is a battery problem but imo a tool is only as good as its battery since without them they are ornaments.
I had the Makita cordless and impact driver, and the circular saw and they were rubbish and real, real expensive. My opinion is based on their top of the range stuff. It's rubbish.
What warranty are they all offering ,.Bosch has 3
Rang them one day with a trigger problem, they sent a courier out to collect next day and he dropped it back again,zero work on my part
I ignored your point because it was stupid.You had a bad experience and that's unfortunate, but you've completely ignored every point I made.
For almost any job on site, the torque is going to be just fine on any pro model of combi. Most of us have an SDS for anything bigger anyway.
I ignored your point because it was stupid.
When drills fall to absolute bits because they're crap i don't care that it's got better specs on paper, it's still a piece of crap and i won't ever buy them again, which is what happened with Makita. I don't remember the numbers since i sold the lot to someone else but they were the most expensive drills Makita make, which is a point you ignored because it didn't suit your argument. Almost £400 for the pair + 2 batteries and a charger, their top of the range stuff. And it was gash.
I rate my trust in brands based on how that brands manufacturing holds up to scrutiny with daily use. If i buy even a couple of bottom of the range 'professional' tools and they fall to bits then i don't care that their 18v XYZ version has better gearing or more torque, i won't buy their brand again because they are known to me to use crap materials and have rubbish build quality. But you do you.
Makita are rubbish. It doesn't matter whether one of their specific drills is good or not, based on owning several of their products i'm saying that they're garbage and i won't buy them. That's the price companies pay for making shoddy products, which Makita's are in my experience.
I ignored your point because it was stupid.
When drills fall to absolute bits because they're crap i don't care that it's got better specs on paper, it's still a piece of crap and i won't ever buy them again, which is what happened with Makita. I don't remember the numbers since i sold the lot to someone else but they were the most expensive drills Makita make, which is a point you ignored because it didn't suit your argument. Almost £400 for the pair + 2 batteries and a charger, their top of the range stuff. And it was gash.
I rate my trust in brands based on how that brands manufacturing holds up to scrutiny with daily use. If i buy even a couple of bottom of the range 'professional' tools and they fall to bits then i don't care that their 18v XYZ version has better gearing or more torque, i won't buy their brand again because they are known to me to use crap materials and have rubbish build quality. But you do you.
Makita are rubbish. It doesn't matter whether one of their specific drills is good or not, based on owning several of their products i'm saying that they're garbage and i won't buy them. That's the price companies pay for making shoddy products, which Makita's are in my experience.
Hmm 3 top end combisFor informational purposes, here's a video AvE made several years back, as part of a series drawing comparisions between top end Makita, Dewalt & Milwaukee combi drills and his observations are certainly interesting.
I'd draw particular attention to the chucks as Makita have never used plastic chucks on top of the range drills, which is at odds with your claim about owning a £400 Makita combi complete with plastic chuck.
Hmm 3 top end combis
Before I see it I'm wondering did he successfully reassemble them
They make the best testersHe has a poor track record where successful reassembly is concerned ?
Im kinda of that opinion regarding use of power toolsThe longevity all power tools be it battery or corded machines can be measured by what is proper use and what is user abuse
Everyone complaining about the longevity of batteries probably leaves them overnight in a cold van or garage during the winter with sub zero temperatures and then they wonder why their batteries prematurely fail
How long any power tool lasts is down to how the user operates it or abuses it treat it with respect and use it within it's limitations and it will give you many years of service abuse it and take the consequences
Karcher is a well known brand if you look at their range of pressure washers they go from budget level up to premium price and you get what you pay for at the lower end they are built to fail after 50 - 60 hours use evidently the average use of a domestic pressure wash is around 24 hours / year
If you want an opinion on power tools my advice would be speak to the guy doing the tool repairs in the workshop at your local independent hire shop also have a look at which manufacturers tools are in their hire fleet as they will be some of the most abused tools you will find
Im kinda of that opinion regarding use of power tools
I posted earlier I've got the Bosch 18v SDS fitted with a 5.5 masonry and it stays in it
Underused but it's an important task and if it does than 1 task indefinitely that's enough for me
Rough work I've other corded stuff that can come out
What brandI keep a 5.5 bit permanently in a 12V SDS. People laugh at it, but it's light, gets into tight spots and isn't troubled by drilling small holes.
What brand
I do the exact same. M12 milwaukee sds with 5.5 in it. Brilliant bit of kit. Bigger sds only comes out for bigger stuffI keep a 5.5 bit permanently in a 12V SDS. People laugh at it, but it's light, gets into tight spots and isn't troubled by drilling small holes.
Didn't think I'd need to state that... Makita ?
Ya I've only got the 18v but the 5.5 masonry is such a go-to item I'm happy enough to leave it thereI do the exact same. M12 milwaukee sds with 5.5 in it. Brilliant bit of kit. Bigger sds only comes out for bigger stuff
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