Me for testing rented property I would put 3 years. But up to the tester inspector.
Change of occupier is over the top IMO. 5 years for me on rentals
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GBDamo
Renting is a business, providing a product for money, and with that comes a responsibility to make sure that product is safe.
The best way to achieve that is to have an expert make that assessment and have a piece of paper that indemnifies you.
Things can happen between tenants that shouldn't, the business owner is responsible to ensure one tenant does not make the product unsafe or if they do that a safe state is restored before the next tenant moves in.
For this reason I cannot see how not doing and EICR between tenancies can be acceptable.
Others may disagree but its quite black and white to me.
As for frequency within a tenancy period that depends on the state of the installation. If its a new property with a solid installation then five years is fine. If its hanging on but the landlord refuses a rewire then a year could be applicable.
It's all in the expert opinion of the professional carrying out the EICR.
The best way to achieve that is to have an expert make that assessment and have a piece of paper that indemnifies you.
Things can happen between tenants that shouldn't, the business owner is responsible to ensure one tenant does not make the product unsafe or if they do that a safe state is restored before the next tenant moves in.
For this reason I cannot see how not doing and EICR between tenancies can be acceptable.
Others may disagree but its quite black and white to me.
As for frequency within a tenancy period that depends on the state of the installation. If its a new property with a solid installation then five years is fine. If its hanging on but the landlord refuses a rewire then a year could be applicable.
It's all in the expert opinion of the professional carrying out the EICR.
I disagree. An EICR at change of tenancy is way over the top.
The legislation says max 5 years intervals. Nowhere does it, or the government guidance for it, suggest it is necessary to carry out an EICR between tenancies. It reasonable to assume that if the government wanted rentals to be inspected every time a tenancy ended, it would have stated so in the legislation.
The model EICR form asks you to provide a recommended date for the next EICR. Same for the sticker you put on the consumer unit, it asks for a date. 'Change of tenancy' is not a date, and so can be reasonably be ignored by the landlord.
If you force landlords to have EICRS on their properties potentially every 6 months, they will most likely refuse to take on short term tenants. Too much hassle and cost. Alternatively, the cost will be passed on to the tenant, making short term lets even more prohibitively expensive than they already are.
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loz2754
Wot he said...
The way I read the new regs and the government guidance on the new regs is that it would be not be desirable, nor in line with the spirit of the regs, to give a date of "X years, or change of tenancy".
on the scottish side, we have this:
which states an EICR should be done "before a tenancy begins"
and also a (maximum) 5 year date during a tenancy. Could be sooner
https://www.-----------------------...for-you/landlords/scottish-private-landlords/
which states an EICR should be done "before a tenancy begins"
and also a (maximum) 5 year date during a tenancy. Could be sooner
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GBDamo
I hear what your saying but how else do you, as a landlord, indemnify yourself from blame in the event of an electrical incident in your property?
This would be something for the landlord to decide don't you think? If they themselves decide to have the property inspected more often than required, that should be up to them. But I don't see as we should force that onto them.
It is true that a tenant could meddle with the electrical installation at a property, however, I suspect this would be rare. I don't recall if my tenancy prohibits me from changing light fittings etc, but I do remember I have to ask permission to hang a picture, so I expect so. If a landlord does occasional visits to the property, as they should, they are likely to notice any modifications.
I can understand your point to some extent but over a 5 year period the tenancy could change possibly 10 times or more so if an incident occurs beyond the first rental period involving the electrical installation that causes serious injury or death who is responsible and in the litigation firing line
Is the fact the legislation says 5 years a valid and adequate defence I would think not
Do you think that it is reasonable to force a landlord to have 10 EICRs carried out on a rental property over a 5 year period? This is proper nanny state stuff don't you think? And will probably do more harm than good to the installation.
I'm all for electrical safety in the rental sector, but we have to be sensible in its application.
If a landlord has his 5 yearly EICR carried out, does regular property inspections, has any problems dealt with, and has no reason to believe that any unauthorised electrical work has been carried out at the property, then (s)he has done all that is reasonable to ensure the safety of his/her tenants.
You are arguing from the point of a landlord but then seem concerned about the cost of private rents being increased because of cost of additional checks on a change of tenacy with your hidden profile I am finding it difficult to understand where you are coming from
While I can partly see your point you keep referring to the landlord doing a regular inspection, what about the absent landlord who relies on the letting agent, will the letting agent want to take the responsibility of doing the regular property inspections and confirming the electrical installation is safe for continued use
Then you start to encroach on the EAWR and competence, but ultimately it all comes down to a serious incident and litigation and that man in the wig to find out whether those involved have properly discharged their responsibilities and duty of care in the most appropriate manner
To throw another one in if it is a long term let of more than 5 years why should a landlord be expected to have an EICR at 5 years when 10 years is the recommended interval on a domestic property
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