Fire rated clips in trunking

[ThrownRazor25]

Had niceic guy out today and has advised that behind kitchen units i dont need to fit fire rated clips in trunking. I was under the impression that they were to be fitted in all trunking? Any thoughts?

 

[telectrix]

because in that location, due to a fire, perhaps, fallen cables will not pose a hazard

 

[Pete999]

because in that location, due to a fire, perhaps, fallen cables will not pose a hazard

because in that location, due to a fire, perhaps, fallen cables will not pose a hazard

Think that's a good answer, all that's needed really.

 

[Andy78]

Currently the requirement is for escape routes to have non combustible cable supports.
521.11.201

 

[ThrownRazor25]

I thought they had to be fitted in all trunking as per 18th edition?

 

[davesparks]

I thought they had to be fitted in all trunking as per 18th edition?

Have you read the regulation concerned or are you basing this on rumours?

 

[Andy78]

I thought they had to be fitted in all trunking as per 18th edition?

The 18th edition doesn't come into effect until 01/01/2019.

Can someone post the wording of the updated reg out of interest as I haven't got a blue book yet.

 

[ThrownRazor25]

I dont base anything on rumours.

Regulation 521.10.202 requires cables to be adequately supported against their premature collapse in the event of a fire. This applies throughout the installation and not just in escape routes.

 

[ThrownRazor25]

I am aware that it does not come into effect until 01/01/19 , but i have the new book and want to adhere to it from now on.

 

[Andy78]

I am aware that it does not come into effect until 01/01/19 , but i have the new book and want to adhere to it from now on.

If you are aware it isn't yet a requirement, why the confusion when your NICEIC inspector tells you it isn't a requirement ?

 

[ThrownRazor25]

Because i know that in 5 months time it will be a requirement and i hate this usual grey area that occurs with regulations.

In my head it should be black or white and reading that regulation it states everywhere not just escape routes.

A regulation shouldnt be up for interpretation, it should be there to be followed or what is the point?

 

[westward10]

Think you need to apply common sense here whatever issue of BS7671 you choose to follow at present. Assess the risk of premature cable support failure in the event of a fire and decide on the nature of cable support required.

 

[Toneyz]

If you want to go above and beyond the minimum regulations at present I can't see any issue with that only from a cost point.

 

[ThrownRazor25]

From january and there is a piece of plastic trunking to be fitted, for whatever reason, in a sitting room 300mm from the floor from 1 wall to the next wall.
Would you fit fire rated clips inside or would you say that there is a reduced risk of entanglement because of the height of the trunking?

 

[MG201]

From january and there is a piece of plastic trunking to be fitted, for whatever reason, in a sitting room 300mm from the floor from 1 wall to the next wall.
Would you fit fire rated clips inside or would you say that there is a reduced risk of entanglement because of the height of the trunking?

Once again as previously stated got to consider the proportional risk involved.