Gas & Electric Meter - Same Cupboard?

[Lister1987]

So just been to view a new place as me and the brood are on need of a bigger place and noticed a few things that concerned me, unfortunately I didn't think to get piccies;

As title, gas and electric meter share the same cupboard and are more or less on top each other - Regs regarding this are?

Couldn't see any immediately obvious cooker isolator and agent had no idea, regs re placement of a cooker isolator?

I've asked the agent if the property has a recent EICR as I want to make sure its electrically sound before our 2 and 1yos poke fingers etc etc

Could see undersink plumbing for washing machine/dishwasher bit no obvious location for them so asked agent to find that out.

Anything else I should be looking for?

 

[UNG]

As you haven't mentioned it I assume this property has no consumer unit

 

[Charlie_]

Is there a good pub nearby?

 

[Lister1987]

As you haven't mentioned it I assume this property has no consumer unit

Apologies UNG; elec meter, consumer unit and gas meter all in same cupboard, more-or-less one on top the other

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Cant see an issue with both meters in the same cupboard, makes it easier to bond atleast. A house i lived in had all sevices in a small cupboard.

 

[ruston]

Apologies UNG; elec meter, consumer unit and gas meter all in same cupboard, more-or-less one on top the other

There are separation regs that cover this, if they are touching or inside the distances allowed will contravene this.

 

[Lister1987]

There are separation regs that cover this, if they are touching or inside the distances allowed will contravene this.

Any idea where I can find these?

 

[ruston]

I was hoping it would be a project for you lol.

 

[Lister1987]

I was hoping it would be a project for you lol.

My project to to attempt an EICR, or at the least play with getting readings with the Megger.

 

[ruston]

Are there any electrical services or cables ( other than bonding) touching the gas pipes.

 

[Lister1987]

Are there any electrical services or cables ( other than bonding) touching the gas pipes.

Meter tails possibly, can't quite remember.

 

[ruston]

Well that contravenes the gas reg given to you by @Corbs .
See also 528.33 to 528.3.4 and the accompanying note on the segregation of low pressure gas systems, where more information can be found.

 

[telectrix]

gas regs is 150mm between main tails / wires and gas pipe

wrong. cables and gas pipes spacing is 25mm. gas meter and consumer unit 150mm spacing.

 

[Corbs]

wrong. cables and gas pipes spacing is 25mm. gas meter and consumer unit 150mm spacing.

150mm away from meter tails is the gas regs

tbh i would think maybe a 10mm shower cable might come into the same category but you would have to advise on that

 

[GeorgeCooke]

Couldn't see any immediately obvious cooker isolator and agent had no idea, regs re placement of a cooker isolator?

None. There is no requirement for a cooker isolator apart from the MCB in the CU. They are often fitted as "nice to have".

 

[driverman]

In later years working for a DNO company, they would advise not in same cupboard. Reason being, if a gas leak, build up of fumes in an enclosed area, an over current device when operating under fault condition could cause a spark therefore possibility igniting the gas
If unavoidable, they would insist that the gas meter be enclosed in a abestolux type enclosure.
Similar outside using OMB's. The electric OMB never sited above the gas OMB.

 

[davesparks]

None. There is no requirement for a cooker isolator apart from the MCB in the CU. They are often fitted as "nice to have".

If go so far as to say it is common sense to have one, who is going to switch on/off the MCB every time they want to use the cooker?

 

[driverman]

Re MCB as only means of switching off Cooker. No doubt just left on 24/7.
Seems common sense to have a local means of local isolation in case of an emergency if cooker should go wrong

 

[123]

MCB not likely to be much use if it's a Dual RCD Board and the Cooker has developed an N-E fault

 

[MDJ]

As title, gas and electric meter share the same cupboard and are more or less on top each other - Regs regarding this are?

So what’s the issue in you view?