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chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
Hello All,

I am hoping to find a recommendation from members for a small tube of adhesive that is suitable for gluing Burglar Alarm detector cables to UPVC Window frames and Door architraves.

I don`t want to buy a Hot Glue gun and glue sticks as I only have 4 cables to run down quite detailed frames / door architraves.

Plus I have been told that although that type of adhesive does work when running the cables it does not hold them long term ?

I have thought about white Silicone mastic but only if there is no suitable small tube adhesive choice.

I have Googled: `Security cable adhesive` - `Security accessories glue` - Electrical cable adhesive / glue` - but I was finding adhesives which seemed to be designed to be used when jointing cables.

Can Members recommend a suitable adhesive - in a small tube hopefully ?

I am having to hard wire some Window / Door Magnetic contacts to my Home`s existing Alarm system because the Control box has stopped being able to receive the signals from my Wireless Detectors.

Previously the detectors were adhered to the Windows and Doors with strong hook & loop pads and there were only very short pieces of Bell wire running between the Wireless detector and the Magnetic contact on the Window frames / Door architraves.

Thanks in advance for any help / recommendations.

Chris
 

Charlie_

Electrician's Arms
What about very slimline adhesive trunking?
It will look like it’s part of the window frame
 

chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
What about very slimline adhesive trunking?
It will look like it’s part of the window frame

Hello Charlie,

Thanks for your reply.

The Alarm cables will be coming down from the ceiling and having to cross over quite a detailed UPVC frame `moulding` on the frames / door architraves.

Chris
 

chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
White tec 7 will hold long term. I presume you don't want to staple?
Hello Matthewd29,

Thanks for your reply.

I am not `penny pinching` but I am hoping to find an adhesive in a small tube because the entire length of Alarm detector cable that I will need to glue around the Window frames and Door architraves is only approximately 60 cms.

The Alarm cables will be coming down from the ceiling and having to cross over quite a detailed UPVC frame `moulding` on the frames / door architraves.

Chris
 

ipf

Forum Mentor
Hi chris. Could it be more feasible to locate (repair) the panel fault.....maybe even replace the panel, if it's getting on a bit.
 
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chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
Superglue ?
Hello Dustydazzler,

Thanks for your reply.

I would have thought that Superglue would melt the pvc insulation on the Alarm cable - what do You / other Members think ?

Unusually for me I don`t have any Superglue at the moment - I will have to get some and try it on the cable.

Chris
 

chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
Hi chris. Could it be more feasible to locate (repair) the panel fault.....maybe even replace the panel, if it's getting on a bit.

Hello ipf,

I am guessing that the problem is the Alarm Control Box RF Receiver - as I am not at all experienced in `Electronics` I would not have the `PCB soldering expertise` or the `precise manual dexterity` to go about replacing that - even IF I could source the exact component to replace it.

If it could be replaced all the detectors connected within the Control Box would have to be un-wired and also the Siren Box cable / Siren Box cable protector and the 235 volt supply disconnected - the Control Box removed from the wall to be worked on.

Far too much `messing about` compared to gluing some Alarm cable to UPVC architraves.


I think that I have seen it within the Control Box / on a fairly big PCB and it definitely does not look like a `DIY replaceable component`.

With the exception of replacing / hard wiring detectors my Home Alarm system is far too old for any Control Box spares to be available - I believe that the Manufacturers [Yale] considered it to be `obsolete` about 10 years ago regarding no more spares or wireless detectors being available.

Apart from various problems with detectors failing and RF Interference issues in the past the Alarm has worked for about 20 Years - I am guessing that is pretty good for any Domestic Alarm system ?

During those years usually to either overcome RF Interference or replacing malfunctioning / unavailable Wireless detectors I have had to hard wire various detectors to the Control box.

On this occasion it seems that the Alarm Control Box RF receiver has malfunctioned so I now have to get rid of the remaining Wireless Window and Door detectors and hard wire magnetic contacts to available connections in the Control Box.

It would be nice to have a new House Alarm Control Box but can You really recommend that regarding the fact that I am hoping to solve my Alarm system problem with a £5.00 or £6.00 tube of glue ?

Chris
 
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chris murphy

Electrician's Arms
Hi,how much damage to the PVC frame,can be tolerated?

Hello PEG,

No damage at all - anything done to the `moulding` would ruin it - including trying to remove it / channel behind it etc.

What had You in mind ?

Chris
 

Charlie_

Electrician's Arms
Do you have house insurance?
Covered for break ins?
If so do you think the insurance company will pay out if burglars get in?
 

littlespark

Electrician's Arms
Someone likes using ‘inverted commas’ although those are actually apostrophes and not “inverted commas”

What about a small drill bit up behind the fancy bit of moulding?
 

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