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Vortigern

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I have looked at your contributions regards RCD as AFDD and on the surface it seems a compelling argument that it is true that RCD are AFD devices. The technicalities presented certainly superficially are a revelation and indicate a massive fraud if it is true. I note the report is from the 1980s' and wonder if further work or research has been done on this to your knowledge. A cursory search reveals only info on AFDD info.
I am aware that there was a scenario where a certain manufacturer of termination/joint devices managed to get inserted into BS7671 a requirement for the same to bear the mark MF as in maintenance free. This allowed them to monopolise the market and held back another manufacturer while trying to get the MF mark on their product. Interestingly the former manufacturer sat on the advisory panel for the regs. In fact the JPEL committee members make very interesting reading. Perhaps we should have a register as they do in parliament where you have to declare any interest which may be a conflict of interests for the panel members?
 
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Cookie

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Dear Cookie, may I suggest you start a new post on the subject of AFDs? It is 'out of sight' to most EF members under the present topic title. That way more EF folk will be able to read and comment on this interesting topic, some of which will have first hand experience of deciding on their use and their effectiveness once installed in different settings. If you do please copy over the Breaker Mitigation report.

Will do :)
 
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Cookie

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I have looked at your contributions regards RCD as AFDD and on the surface it seems a compelling argument that it is true that RCD are AFD devices. The technicalities presented certainly superficially are a revelation and indicate a massive fraud if it is true. I note the report is from the 1980s' and wonder if further work or research has been done on this to your knowledge. A cursory search reveals only info on AFDD info.
I am aware that there was a scenario where a certain manufacturer of termination/joint devices managed to get inserted into BS7671 a requirement for the same to bear the mark MF as in maintenance free. This allowed them to monopolise the market and held back another manufacturer while trying to get the MF mark on their product. Interestingly the former manufacturer sat on the advisory panel for the regs. In fact the JPEL committee members make very interesting reading. Perhaps we should have a register as they do in parliament where you have to declare any interest which may be a conflict of interests for the panel members?

Copy and Paste this into the new thread. I will answer it every part of it.
 

Vortigern

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Quixotic in the way you are tilting at windmills. Read large multinational companies conniving to make money at any expense to others with no moral compass guiding their actions. Pharma, vitamins, climate change, fracking, organised religion, palm oil, depleted soil, AFDDs', neon screwdrivers, fused neutrals, the list could go on and on.
There are many people distracted by any of the above issues attempting to make a difference. Hence the term quixotic. Rather akin to attacking an elephant with a pea-shooter. Hopelessly attempting to tame leviathan. It is the human condition and life is too short, there are far more important things to attend to in the brief moment we are here.
 
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Cookie

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Quixotic in the way you are tilting at windmills. Read large multinational companies conniving to make money at any expense to others with no moral compass guiding their actions. Pharma, vitamins, climate change, fracking, organised religion, palm oil, depleted soil, AFDDs', neon screwdrivers, fused neutrals, the list could go on and on.
There are many people distracted by any of the above issues attempting to make a difference. Hence the term quixotic. Rather akin to attacking an elephant with a pea-shooter. Hopelessly attempting to tame leviathan. It is the human condition and life is too short, there are far more important things to attend to in the brief moment we are here.

No see, thats the thing. People choose to remain passive and ignorant on that notion. Until life around them starts getting more and more unfair to the point the masses wish they did something earlier but now realize its to late. Which brings me to my point. One person may not be able to change anything, but an entire populace can certainly effect change. We only let these things happen to us by consent, not knowing we have the power to say no. We have rights, all of us, just that we are never told about them.
 

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