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that is not the fault of the design of the circuit.what is unacceptable is numpties messing with things they don't have a clue about. would you condemn gas supplies in case some idiot turned the gas on then lit a match?

Yes but the point is people will mess with these things. With a radial or a tree, a disconnected live conductor means whatever is downstream stops working - fault is obvious and it gets checked out.

Not the case with a RFC. In my opinion that’s bad design. You have to factor this inevitability into the design, and I do, that’s why I don’t install RFC’s.
 
Funny that.

The RFC is an artefact of materials shortage during WWII, and isn’t really used anywhere else in the world spare a few exceptions.

If it were the best method, it would have been taken up elsewhere.

I don’t know why so many electricians love the RFC other than it’s familiar
I think you have to question ZEDEZ if it is likely that you are right or if a much larger number of people are right? It would be good if you could acknowledge you 'may' be wrong. I think testing a 'tree' would be a nightmare and people could add to it all over the place making it even harder. I do agree though that you do find quite a few broken rings but I still prefer them as 90% of the time they are intact and they still use less copper than a 4mm radial which can only be a good thing.
 
I instal radials all the time.
Mostly for lights.
Though one time when I added a couple of flouries to an existing circuit, I ended up making it into a ring to counter the volt drop on start up.
 
As your title suggests......'the potential for danger is too great'......

I wouldn't touch gas as I'm not qualified too......

So why do folk touch electrics whilst not qualified.......?

As I've said on another thread they deserve a belt if they get one whilst interfering!

I'm totally against what you say......rings are king!

British standards are the daddy too so we better hang on to 'our' methods......

Fcuk the rest!!
 
I prefer radials but install both rings and radials. The main reason I prefer radials is they are far quicker and easier to test, particularly if you do not know the layout as on an EICR.No other reason, certainly not the OP's reasons
 

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