Is loose trunking C2 or C3

[DPG]

The BPG#4 has this under C3:

• Wiring systems not adequately supported to prevent premature collapse in the event of a fire. Note: In locations other than in individual dwellings, such as communal areas forming part of an escape route, this would warrant a code C2 classification to be recorded)

The clarification is a bit convoluted to me, as it sounds like C2 only non-domestic but I think they mean (or maybe they should mean) C2 for any escape route or likely fireman access route.

Seems sensible. A code of C2 force cable in the corner of the bathroom seems harsh.

Mind you, we haven't seen a photo yet have we?

 

[Baddegg]

Bit of engineering judgement here surely...it’s been there years and isn’t in an escape route of any kind...c3 at worst surely? And it complies at the time of installation...

 

[Car123]

Completely understand that mate, I’ve rented in the past just curious as to why so concerned....I’m with you for a decent landlord idve just stuck down and if I liked the client idve made good of whilst doing the EICR so it was never an issue ?

Now that these EICRs have become mandatory none of the people doing them are doing any work at the time. Well not where my house is. So it seems to me a great money spinner. If it was done at the time it would be simplet

 

[Car123]

Seems sensible. A code of C2 force cable in the corner of the bathroom seems harsh.

Mind you, we haven't seen a photo yet have we?

I am not there as I live elsewhere. 350 miles away. The cable is in the kitchen on adjoining wall. Fridge freezer is about a food away

 

[Baddegg]

Lot of landlords are getting caught out with sparks treating eicrs as loss leaders.....£90 for a 3 bed house!....lovely till the report comes back ?

 

[SJD]

Now that these EICRs have become mandatory none of the people doing them are doing any work at the time. Well not where my house is. So it seems to me a great money spinner. If it was done at the time it would be simplet

Some of us are doing minor remedial works at the time, by prior agreement, as it saves the landlord time & money. Likely fixing a piece of trunking would fall into that category. However, there are some landlords who want a quote beforehand for everything however minor - those I am not fixing at the time, and it will eventually cost them more.

 

[Car123]

Bit of engineering judgement here surely...it’s been there years and isn’t in an escape route of any kind...c3 at worst surely? And it complies at the time of installation...

Well common sense tells me that. Believe me I have done everything to make the place safe including work that is not mandatory. For example a wired fire alarm system. It's not a house of multiple occupation. I have put in new lights, lots of points etc

Some of us are doing minor remedial works at the time, by prior agreement, as it saves the landlord time & money. Likely fixing a piece of trunking would fall into that category. However, there are some landlords who want a quote beforehand for everything however minor - those I am not fixing at the time, and it will eventually cost them more.

I would most certainly have been happy for the work at the time. I feel that I am being ripped off to be far. And I have used them before to do lots of things

 

[Spoon]

Bit of engineering judgement here surely...it’s been there years and isn’t in an escape route of any kind...c3 at worst surely? And it complies at the time of installation...

The 'escape route' part has been changed. It now applies to all wiring.

 

[Baddegg]

The 'escape route' part has been changed. It now applies to all wiring.

Yep...I was getting at the fact it didn’t when installed mate, don’t get wrong if that was in an escape route I’d c2 it but it’s a bit harsh considering it’s location

 

[Spoon]

Yep...I was getting at the fact it didn’t when installed mate, don’t get wrong if that was in an escape route I’d c2 it but it’s a bit harsh considering it’s location

As @DPG commented in post #20, I haven't seen any pics of the trunking so it's hard to say mate.

 

[Baddegg]

As @DPG commented in post #20, I haven't seen any pics of the trunking so it's hard to say mate.

Very true mate

 

[Car123]

Yep...I was getting at the fact it didn’t when installed mate, don’t get wrong if that was in an escape route I’d c2 it but it’s a bit harsh considering it’s location

Well I find it ridiculous actually. It's secure it has not moved

As @DPG commented in post #20, I haven't seen any pics of the trunking so it's hard to say mate.

As I explained as I am not there I can't photo it I am 350 miles away

Very true mate

I cannot photo it as I am not there

 

[Spoon]

As I explained as I am not there I can't photo it I am 350 miles away

Then it's hard to answer your question mate.
Get the tenant to take a pic and send it to you.

 

[DPG]

Pay a local handyman to secure it. Shouldn't cost much. Pop the cable out, couple of holes drilled, pop cable back in. It would be good for you to find a local tradesman who you can use for jobs like this.

 

[Baddegg]

Then it's hard to answer your question mate.
Get the tenant to take a pic and send it to you.

We love a picture....it makes the whole thing a more immersive experience for us......for the love of good don’t put cheesecake in it though!....it’ll go wrong

 

[Baddegg]

Pay a local handyman to secure it. Shouldn't cost much. Pop the cable out, couple of holes drilled, pop cable back in. It would be good for you to find a local tradesman who you can use for jobs like this.

I’ve actually taken someone on now as an arm of my business as handy man stuff becomes much more a thing with the current generation....

 

[Spoon]

Pay a local handyman to secure it. Shouldn't cost much. Pop the cable out, couple of holes drilled, pop cable back in. It would be good for you to find a local tradesman who you can use for jobs like this.

Just to add to the above, if you do this then get them to use fireproof cable clips & get them to take pics and send to you. You can then send them to the electrician.

 

[DPG]

Just to add to the above, if you do this then get them to use fireproof cable clips & get them to take pics and send to you. You can then send them to the electrician.

Top advice. Indeed.

 

[Spoon]

We love a picture....it makes the whole thing a more immersive experience for us......for the love of good don’t put cheesecake in it though!....it’ll go wrong

Cheesecake may be good for fireproofing... Not that there is ever any left for me to test this out...

 

[Baddegg]

Agree with @DPG and @Spoon...There’s nothing says this work has to carried out by a spark at sparks rates ?