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Ben Butcher

Hello all,

Sorry for the inflammatory title!.. I will try and keep this as short as possible but I wish to know if there is, was, or ever will be a movement towards to boycotting of the CPS systems? Here's my problem - as I understand it by paying Elecsa lots of money, ticking all the boxes and jumping through the hoops I am 'certified' to sign off my own work in domestic situations without the need to contact building control before commencement of the work blah blah blah. Got it. Now, on completion of a very large house here in sunny Devon I have been informed by the site manager that he wants me to give him all my BS7671 certs so that he can give them to the building inspector. The request is paired with the insistence that if I don't the house will not be issued an occupancy certificate and the client gets grumpy and tries to eat my head. Now on principal I have said no, because if I pay all this money etc surely my part of the building (part P) is essentially not being inspected by him? but by me - and certified by me direct to building control.
Now either Mr Building Inpector does have the right to ask for them, in which case I will boycott part P alone from now on, or he doesn't, in which case by now he should be aware of the system. How long do I have to work in yet another industry where seemingly pointless trade bodies, and certification bodies create massive confusion and cost and never really achieve anything?
Any comments would be gratefully read. B.
 
your site manager is a ---. you give your certs to the person ordering the work. end of. BC are notified through elecsa .
 
Hello all,

Sorry for the inflammatory title!.. I will try and keep this as short as possible but I wish to know if there is, was, or ever will be a movement towards to boycotting of the CPS systems? Here's my problem - as I understand it by paying Elecsa lots of money, ticking all the boxes and jumping through the hoops I am 'certified' to sign off my own work in domestic situations without the need to contact building control before commencement of the work blah blah blah. Got it. Now, on completion of a very large house here in sunny Devon I have been informed by the site manager that he wants me to give him all my BS7671 certs so that he can give them to the building inspector. The request is paired with the insistence that if I don't the house will not be issued an occupancy certificate and the client gets grumpy and tries to eat my head. Now on principal I have said no, because if I pay all this money etc surely my part of the building (part P) is essentially not being inspected by him? but by me - and certified by me direct to building control.
Now either Mr Building Inpector does have the right to ask for them, in which case I will boycott part P alone from now on, or he doesn't, in which case by now he should be aware of the system. How long do I have to work in yet another industry where seemingly pointless trade bodies, and certification bodies create massive confusion and cost and never really achieve anything?
Any comments would be gratefully read. B.
put the boot in on the lot of em....

dont expect to get anything out of elexsa other than a load of old crap...

just like we did at the recent elex show.....
 
All you have to do is via your scheme they will notify BC and give the certificates to the house holder its there house so there certificate have found alot of builders just happen to loose the certificates if the builders want one let them have a copy for £25.00
 
I have the usual annual assessment with elecsa tommorrow and will gripe once again why I have to waste half a day of my time unpaid to show someone my work and pay £500 for the privilage and get nothing in return.Im sure we will have an interesting discussion.
 
Blah blah, mark of competence, upholding standards, blah blah, nationally recognised brand, doing all we can to help.....
More champagne Emma?
 
Do what I do ( I was in napit for 5 years before saw the light) just issue your own bs 7671 certs to the building inspector they will be fine this[/QUOTE
you must live in an area with that rare commodity... a sensible LABC. most flatly refuse your certs and insist you are a member of a scam.
 
you have done the work and issued a bs 7671 cert ,assuming you are competant and have city and guilds to prove it, I can't see the argument for refusing your cert (I deal with 3 councils and no problem)
 

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