The UK is a C2 then?As it stands C2 . But the reality is there will be millions like this in the Uk !
Agreed - though if it was self amalgamating tape (that couldn't be removed without a tool), that would make things slightly different would it not? Looks more like tape I agree....The tape makes no difference it is not suitably enclosed.
so that makes it a C2 as shown in the OP's pic., but a C3 when shoved back in the ceiling? push it back up andvcharge £100 for remedial work.From BPG4:
(C2) Sheath of an insulated and sheathed nonarmoured cable not taken inside the enclosure of an accessory, such as at a socket-outlet or lighting switch, where the unsheathed cores are accessible to touch and/or likely to come into contact with metalwork. (Note: Code C3 would apply if the unsheathed cores are not accessible to touch nor likely to come into contact with metalwork)
Guess so! Though there is the argument that if the downlight itself is metal (and not earthed), then maybe it should be a C2 if either of the live conductors could touch it....so that makes it a C2 as shown in the OP's pic., but a C3 when shoved back in the ceiling?
As above, unless the fitting should be earthed (and as appears to be the case, isn't), then back to C2.so that makes it a C2 as shown in the OP's pic., but a C3 when shoved back in the ceiling?
Give me a break, have you seen the time?Isn’t basic insulation outside of the box a C2 , potentially dangerous as their is not mechanical protection on the single cables
I wouldn’t spend 2 mins trying to peel off the tape, just Cut off builders tape bodge job, reterminate both twin n earth into a choc box and take 6 inches of flex to light fitting and connect properlyGive me a break, have you seen the time?
yes.... it’s also a C2. Unwrap the tape and see how much basic insulation is showing.
The only person I know who uses this term is Delroy the SparksThe guy that did my EICR report said he was an EICR inspector who also trained other inspectors. He said he was going to class it as a C2 as the cables should have been enclosed in a coffin box, he never mentioned anything about the earthing
Dead right! It's been incorrectly terminated by not using a suitable enclosure.Not to mention, as a trade we should be raising the standard and not just simply except shoddy builders wiring as ‘standard practic’ these days
there must literally be millions of lights connected this way on brand new builds , shoddy tape and connector block joints all over the gaff. Rough as a badgers.
C2, rip them out and re’do them properly
These light fittings do have a sticker on the side with a box within a boxNot sure if it’s the same model of fitting, but the little black jointbox should be clipped to the metal plate sticking out to the left. This plate may also have a threaded hole that should take an earth terminal screw.
So by design, the fitting should have been earthed.... but isn’t. C2
Other fittings may be double insulated (look for a square within a square logo)
If so, then C3, basic insulation outside enclosure.
Well that suggests the fitting doesn’t need an earth, but by the regs, the circuit needs a continual earth wire to the end in case someone changes a fitting at some point to one that needs it.These light fittings do have a sticker on the side with a box within a box