Kitchen appliance FCU

[adsmith]

It isn't a requirement for FCU's to be used for kitchen appliances ie dish washer or washing machine is it in a new build? I was thinking of just putting a double socket in a cupboard and plugging in the two appliance but have read about using FCU's and was wondering if this is a requirement or just a recommendation?
Thanks

 

[Pete999]

Spurred from an RFC or separate radial circuit?

 

[adsmith]

Well I was just going to have the double socket as part of the kitchen RFC and not bother with fused spurs to the appliances. Is this ok practice still

 

[Pete999]

For two heavy loads like these I personally would run a dedicated radial, but that's just my personal preference nothing to do with the Regs, others will say different I'm sure.

 

[Andy78]

Two appliances like that in a double socket are likely to be used often simultaneously and over time damage the socket.

 

[adsmith]

Sorry my apologise it will be a small dish washer and small under counter fridge. Running radials for appliances cant really be an option. The ring main would consist of 3 counter top doubles and a double low level (under sink) for dish washer and small fridge. Is this adequate? Just reading up on dilating appliances via fcu was mentioned and got me thinking is that how its required now or just a recommended way of doing things

 

[Dustydazzler]

Put in 2 separate single sockets on a dual surface box if its a WM and TD and keep on the ring or run in a separate 20a feed.
If its 2 smaller loads like DW and FF then a double socket on the ring or even spurred off the ring is fine

 

[littlespark]

FCU onto the flex of the appliance? Doesn't that mean cutting the plug off?
FFS.... Don't go there!

 

[Dustydazzler]

DO NOT cut off the manufacturer melded plug top

 

[Midwest]

DO NOT cut off the manufacturer melded plug top

If you can provide evidence to the fact, that it can affect manufactures warranty (if thats what you're suggesting). That would be useful.

I've had a washing dryer & dishwasher adjacent to each other on an RFC, and the world didn't end. You have to remember these appliances are more efficient these days, although I'm sceptical with my current fuel bill.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Something comes with a perfectly good plug top why on earth would you lop it off...

 

[Midwest]

Something comes with a perfectly good plug top why on earth would you lop it off...

Agreed, but just checking you're not suggesting it voids warranties?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Agreed, but just checking you're not suggesting it voids warranties?

It might it might not , I guess that is down to the particular manufacturer.

 

[Midwest]

It might it might not , I guess that is down to the particular manufacturer.

You might know I did some research on the subject. Just think posting something like you did, scares some people. Just saying.

 

[telectrix]

the reason for fitting a FCU or a 20A 2 pole switch above worktop is basically to provide local isolation for the appliance without the need to pull the appliance out to unplug it. if the plug/socket/s are accessible, there's no need to fit FCU or D/P switch.
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mornin' pete. up early?

 

[adsmith]

Thanks for the help again lads. Always appreciated