Kitchen ceiling lights fire rating

[Gary Tollison]

greetings
Was curious about the ceiling lights in the kitchen if they were fire rated or not.
Google was no help with model info.
There’s an F in a triangle symbol on the side, but I don’t know if that means anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Gary

 

[Gary Tollison]

Might have answered my own question!
Googled fire rating symbols and according to big brother, the lights are fire rated, suitable for mounting on normally flammable surfaces.

 

[Spoon]

Well, this was a sort thread... And only 1 person involved...

 

[l4urence]

That’s a good question. I fitted some recently and they were marked on the box and leaflet as fire rated but can’t see any relevant markings on the lamp fitting itself!

 

[Midwest]

Think you’ll find an ‘F’ in a triangle means suitable for mounting on a flammable surface only.

A fire rated luminaire, as far as I’m aware, refers to its ability to resist the spread of a fire.

 

[l4urence]

Think you’ll find an ‘F’ in a triangle means suitable for mounting on a flammable surface only.

A fire rated luminaire, as far as I’m aware, refers to its ability to resist the spread of a fire.

Agree. Perfect but you would have thought this fire rated ability would have its own mark!

 

[Wilko]

Might have answered my own question!
Googled fire rating symbols and according to big brother, the lights are fire rated, suitable for mounting on normally flammable surfaces.

Hi - apologies for repetition of what others have said - in its day I think the symbol means luminaire may be mounted on a flammable surface, say plywood. BUT that symbol says nothing about the luminaire’s fire rating. The lamp doesn’t look fire rated to me, just saying.

 

[telectrix]

if that's fire rated, I'm a teenager.

 

[l4urence]

Found this in a couple of places:

Basically, to test it we have to burn it and see what happens!

In order for luminaires to be certified fully fire rated they must comply with Building Regulations BS476-22

http://www.safety-managementuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/BS-476-22.pdf

 

[l4urence]

You would therefore think that a downlight would have BS476... on it somewhere.

 

[Gary Tollison]

time to go shopping for new lights!

 

[Tony Reidy]

View attachment 49365 greetings
Was curious about the ceiling lights in the kitchen if they were fire rated or not.
Google was no help with model info.
There’s an F in a triangle symbol on the side, but I don’t know if that means anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Gary

No they are not fire rated

 

[Charlie_]

FYI

 

[Timbo]

time to go shopping for new lights!

Why?

 

[GeorgeCooke]

fire rating may not be required. What is above the kitchen?

 

[Gary Tollison]

Bathroom, landing and part of the spare bedroom

 

[telectrix]

fire rating may not be required. What is above the kitchen?

possibly not, but when we can get fire rated, insulation proof, IP65,integrated fittings with option of colour temp selection for under £15+VAT, why consider crap.

 

[MJPD29]

I would be 99% certain that fitting is not fire rated. Why would it need to be anyway

 

[Midwest]

fire rating may not be required. What is above the kitchen?

If it’s a plasterboard ceiling, covering structural timbers, any holes cut into it the ceiling would need to be reinstated to it’s original specification.

 

[l4urence]

Here's a thought... What does 'Fire rating' actually mean - there is no symbol on the unit (say a downlight) describing the fire rated properties (perhaps the box is marked or sold as 'fire rated'). There is little [manufacturers] information about how long it's fire rated for, so installing in a single plasterboard ceiling I would expect some confirmation that it is at least 30 mins. Nothing, no info. Except perhaps the intumescent pad / seal / ring that comes with it. Is this pad the fire rating? - if so what is the spec of the pad? if fitted without the pad, or comes without a pad - is it still fire rated? More [manufacturers] info needed here or do we need wait for the subsequent board of enquiry to decide it was or wasn't really 'fire rated'.